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Wednesday, August 13, 2008
Is the "Weak" American State a Myth?
Stephen Griffin
Mary Dudziak has called attention to William Novak’s essay, “The Myth of the ‘Weak’ American State,” in the June 2008 issue of the American Historical Review. This essay continues Novak’s project of criticizing the standard story that is told about the historical lack of a strong state (or even of the idea of the state) in the United States. Novak’s project is a good one and he cites an impressive body of research that backs his claim that the “weak” American state is a myth.
Comments:
Stephen,
The crucial question, as you put it, is "what is at stake?" Bill's argument is a historical one aimed at dispelling a resilient (romanticized) story that the 19th century was a laissez faire paradise of individualist-oriented liberty. That is the myth he worked hard to dispel in his book, followed up in this essay. It does not detract from his argument to point out, as you correctly do, that the national government was underdeveloped at the time--and was vastly underdeveloped compared to today--because the image of laissez faire does not care which branch or unit of government engages in intrusive or expansive regulations or activities. Your argument is more focused on present concerns, which takes you in a different direction. Bill can speak for himself, of course, but I don't think he would disagree very much with your position, while still maintaining that his argument stands. Brian
Hi Brian,
I agree with you about Bill's book, but not about the essay. In the essay, he pretty clearly is taking on the national state as well and rolling into his earlier story. He's making some very broad assertions about the state as a whole without differentiating between the American state and the national state. That's the point I'm raising.
But when we turn our attention to the national state, we have to confront the legacy of southern opposition to centralized government in service of protecting the system of segregation.
I'm uneasy with the notion of the "national state"--it still seems to follow the conflation of categories found in "nation-state," and I'm not sure what is gained by continuing along that path. If effective southern opposition stands as a sign of weakness, does southern collaboration serve as a sign of strength? For example, would the Indian Removal Act of 1830 be an indication of a strong centralized government or a weak federal government succumbing to southern demands? Should the background of the executive come into play in assessing the relative weakness/strength of the government's ability to make states comply with federal regulations?
Stephen,
Your point is well taken (you are right that my main focus was on his book). Let's set Bill's argument aside (he can jump in), and instead take up the interesting (and hard) questions your raise in the final paragraph of your post. I wonder if it would help by shifting the focus a bit. Your questions look at national government activities--services it provides, functions it fills. Here we can see growth tied to the wars and depressions, with subsequent cut-backs, as you indicate. But what if we instead examine the growth in the size of the institutional apparatus of the national government: numbers of employees, buildings, departments, size of budget. (Morton Keller's work is excellent on this). I think you will see a steady and uninterrupted (except for minor blips) rise in all of these measures that begins in the late nineteenth century, a rise matched by other states in the West (and elsewhere). This growth was part of the emergence of mass bureaucratic society and organization. These increases are of course tied to the activities and functions of government (managing war and the economy, providing services), but focusing exclusively on raw institutional measures might show that the emergence of "anti-statist" reactions (Reagan) don't really change the fundamentals on the ground. The (national and state) government apparatus is big, must be big because mass society cannot function without organization and coordination (which cannot be managed entirely by the market or other forms of spontaneous organization), is getting bigger (though perhaps at a slower rate), and will be big no matter what we do or say (absent a doomsday scenario). What the Constitution says, or does not say, about this reality doesn't really matter much. If this is correct (and I'm not sure it is), your questions touch the rippling surface of what has been a nigh inexorable development which belies the notion of a weak state. Our state (counting all branches and units) may be inefficient and flawed, and sometimes completely breaks down (Katrina), but these are exceptional events compared to its daily (unseen but many-fingered), massive institution presence. Brian
Brian, good questions! Just briefly: in understanding the national state, it's just as important to pay attention to internal structure and evolution over time as to the fact of bigness. And bigness conceals many issues of detail. The national state needs to be studied at retail, not just wholesale.
So let's not overlook deregulation and privatization in the Carter-Reagain years, it's all grist for the mill. Also the growing reliance on private contractors to provide for the troops because of the reluctance to permanently expand the size of the federal bureaucracy. Also the traditional reliance on state and local governments to run otherwise "national" programs because of the same reluctance. But more to the point -- what's the real answer to the question that while Reaganites fulminate, the national state still exists and grows? I'm afraid I don't have any doubt that antistatist ideology still makes an enormous difference in the way policies are formulated and carried out. It affects policy evolution and that's important to know. And disaster relief is indeed a perfect example.
If one includes all levels of government, there is a theoretical basis for Novak's thesis. The Constitution did not place any practical limits on the size of state and local governments, only that of the national government.
However, as a practical matter, economic and social competition between the states placed an effective check on the growth of government. A free people are permitted to vote with their feet to leave oppressive taxation and regulation, as they continue to do today from the Blue States to Red States. It was not until the New Deal Court eviscerated the Article I limits on Congress to enumerated powers that the federal government began its seemingly inexorable growth. It is far harder to vote with one's feet to flee from your entire nation to escape an expansive government, especially when nearly every other similar nation has an even more extensive government. However, even national government growth apparently has limits with the American citizenry. The Reagan Revolution effectively limited the size of the federal government to roughly 20% of GDP. The absolute growth of the federal government between Reagan and George II, while impressive, was a function of a rapidly growing economy. We are entering an interesting period now. The GOP under George II flirted with the ideological contradiction known as "big government conservatism" and increased the national government as a percentage of GDP for the first time in a generation. However, the ideological compact established during the 80s and 90s to maintain the size of the federal government does not appear to have changed. Voters punished the congressional GOP by voting for center-right Big Dog Dems running on fiscal responsibility platforms. So far, the change in partisan control in Congress to the traditional party of government has not resulted in an increase in the size of government as the Blur Dogs appear to be honoring their pledges to voters in what are normally Red districts. As the Dem congressional expansion most likely continues this cycle, it will be interesting to see if the Blue Dog resolve continues.
Bart DePalma said...
**If one includes all levels of government, there is a theoretical basis for Novak's thesis. The Constitution did not place any practical limits on the size of state and local governments, only that of the national government.** I am shocked - shocked that I actually agree with Bart on something. Given the original constitutional theme of limiting the new central government, much of the early development of the American state necessarily took place at the state and local level. Looking closely at the basic institutions necessary for a strong active American "state" (institutions such as administrative bodies and revenue collection), the state-building action in the early years took place at the subnational level rather than on the Potomac.
There are really four relevant time periods in the strength of the federal government.
First, 1776-1789 (Articles of Confederation -- very weak). Second, 1789-1861 (current constitution, weak federal government, small bureacracy, non-professionalized congress, fairly unimportant federal courts). This is really the last time that the federal government was weak. Third, 1861-1932 (current constitution, expanded bureacracy, professionalized congess, small peacetime armies, stronger federal courts developed). Fourth, 1932-Present (addition of welfare state and increasing general regulation particularly in the areas of commerce and civil rights). State and local government followed a somewhat similar pattern. Municipal police didn't exist until the third period, which also gave rise to modern civil service systems and much increased regulation of commerce. Widespread use of zoning didn't occur until the fourth.
It's somewhat off topic here, but I have to comment on this sentence: The “giveaway state” – good at distributing benefits to all congressional districts, poor at coordinating national objectives.
I rarely see this so cogently stated. It's the direct result of winner-take-all elections in single-member districts. The antidote is proportional representation.
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