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Friday, June 13, 2008
What's the Rush?
Marty Lederman
Both before and after the Court's decision yesterday in Boumediene, I wrote that if the GTMO detainees are afforded habeas rights, there would be (and is) little reason to consider any legislative response: "Because the Court holds that such detainees are entitled to habeas, and that the D.C. Circuit scheme is not an adequate substitute, any new replacement regime Congress might legislate would have to effectively recapitulate the protections of habeas -- and why should Congress bother with that, once habeas proceedings have commenced?" (As David Barron and others have noted, Congress could, of course, try to actually suspend the writ as to a category of detainees; but I'm assuming that there would be little political support in Congress for such a law.) There are many prominent voices in the current debate, however, who continue to insist that a new statutory framework for detention policy legislative action is imperative -- see, for example, the ubiquitous calls for creation of a new "national security court." One of the most thoughtful such proponents is my co-blogger at Slate, Ben Wittes, whose forthcoming book is a very well-written, carefully reasoned and impassioned plea for Congress to step up to the plate, especially on the question of long-term detention. Similarly, in today's Washington Post, Ben takes stock of Boumediene and comes away with this reaction: "Congress and the executive branch -- whether the Bush administration or its successor -- desperately need to enact a comprehensive legislative solution to the problem of detentions in the war against terrorism. . . . Congress cannot afford to shirk [its] burden any longer." I must confess (as I have discussed with Ben) that I just don't understand the urgency. It seems to me that, based solely on Ben's own (quite compelling) account of the problems under the Bush detention system of the past six years, Boumediene is a dream come true -- an answer to Ben's prayers, a decision that in one fell swoop provides most (but not quite all) of what Ben would have the legislature do. Let's review check Ben's bill of particulars: 1. "The majority of [GTMO] detainees . . . either deny the allegations against them -- with varying degrees of plausibility -- or choose not to address them in the primitive review mechanisms the government has set up. These detainees often present complex and murky issues of fact that any adjudicatory system has to resolve." The habeas proceedings that the Court has mandated will finally provide the sort of sophisticated and unbiased system to adjudicate those complex and murky issues of fact. 2. "A reasonable system would do as much adjudication as possible in public" -- check 3. "creating for each detainee a rigorous set of factual findings and a record evaluating the decision to detain" -- check 4. "For detainees of the type held at 8. "Detainees themselves need a more detailed summary of the evidence against them" -- check 9. "and a more meaningful opportunity to present evidence of their own" -- double-check (this is the principal point in the Kennedy opinion). 10. "Congress, in short, needs to design a system open enough for the public to know how scary some detainees really are and adversarial enough to credibly separate the wheat from the chaff." That describes habeas to a tee. Ben is channeling Justice Kennedy (or vice verse) here! The coincidences are downright eerie. So what's not to like about Boumediene? Finally, after six long years without any of these legal protections, the Court has now ensured that they will be provided. Why, then, the lament about Congress's sloth -- the cry for legislative internvention? To be fair, the Boumediene decision does not provide everything on Ben's wish list. Ben would actually have the legislature provide the detainees with greater procedural protections, at least two junctures -- one before and one after habeas proceedings: Second, in cases where the habeas court denies a detainee's petition, Ben wishes to put in place a system that guarantees regular reconsideration, by a federal court, of the legality of continued detention: "Judicial supervision of these decisions," he writes, "must persist as long as the detentions persist, ensuring that the detentions are humane and remain necessary." (In Slate: "A reasonable legislative scheme would have the court's jurisdiction persist as long as the detention itself persists—something that habeas review does not do. [T]he government should have an affirmative obligation to argue periodically for continued detention.") Who could argue with that? But again, this would be a legislative provision of greater protections, above and beyond what the Court guaranteed yesterday -- as Ben puts it today, "what I'm advocating would be generous procedurally even compared with the regime Justice Kennedy has demanded." OK, I'm on board. But the Bush Administration won't possibly stand for it; and in the meantime -- while we await an Administration that might be receptive to such a proposal -- it's certainly no reason to cast doubt on the value of the 90% of the loaf that the Boumediene decision provided. * * * * So far, then, no real reason for any precipitous congressional initiative. In fairness, however, I have not yet discussed one other, fairly important, matter -- the substantive standards for detention. Ben would have Congress prescribe such standards by statute, so that habeas courts (and possibly administrative tribunals) will have greater guidance about exactly what question it is that they are supposed to be answering. I am not opposed, in theory, to such a statutory standard. HOWEVER -- Any such standard that would be acceptable to (and thus approved by) President Bush -- whose detention policies are based at least as much on the need for intelligence-gathering (i.e., "coercive" interrogation) as on incapacitation of dangerous combatants -- would almost certainly be much broader than anything I, or Ben, would find acceptable. Thus, this is, at most, a project for the next Administration. Moreover, I am not as convinced as Ben that habeas courts cannot apply proper and meaningful detention standards (as did the Supreme Court in Hamdi, in a more traditional factual setting), based upon the AUMF and Congress's implicit adoption therein of the laws of war -- and upon the assumption that Congress has provided a detention authority that adapts the laws of war to this somewhat novel setting. (Examples of such analysis can be found in Part II of the Boumediene petitioners' brief and in Part V-A of this here article.) I don't want to get deeply into this complex question here, because I know both (i) that Ben agrees with me that many of the cases can be resolved based on the laws of war, and (ii) that there will remain a residuum of hard cases where Ben and I will disagree on whether the laws of war provide any good analogy. I thus concede that, although I don't think the problem is as acute as Ben does, it is an appropriate topic for serious review . . . in the next Administration.
Comments:
Good post Marty.
It's really silly to suggest we need to reinvent the wheel when you look at the posture of the actual cases: all a new system gets you is endless litigation over procedural questions where the courts have hundreds of years of experience and precedent to rely on, while on the other hand it's completely obvious that the Bush administration's judgment is unsound, they are habitual liars, and their motives are facially CRIMINAL. They are, in fact, committing crimes under US law -- war crimes p. 18 USC 2441 in particular. We now have a Supreme Court decision which makes the administration's guilt evident on their own public record, just as the decisions below did in Hamdan and In re Guantanamo Detainee Cases -- and that's without even reaching the delicate question of torturing people.
prof. lederman:
i don't think anything will be legislated before the changing of the guard on jan. 20th 2009. there is .. imo . no legislative imperative among the now democrat-controlled houses of governance.. anything the democrats would assemble would not be acceptable to mr. bush ..and anything acceptable to mr. bush would not pass by a democratic majority.. imo .. the rush here is the old proverbial "bums' rush"
Put me down for a vehement "NO" vote on any new faux-habeas legislation, any National Security Courts, and any more creations of suspect categories like "enemy combatants."
We have the chance to return our country to the status quo ante the Bush/9-11 delirium in our laws. Let's take it.
I'm greatly reminded of Senator Feinstein's notion that we need to invent a new court to try telcos that violated their customers' privacy. Her staff keeps insisting that isn't immunity. Really? Can I have a special court of my own devising for my offenses? The whole notion is absurd; we have courts, we have procedures to protect secrets in litigation, we have a civil justice system that has gotten this done before, we don't need any new inventions. The same holds true for judicial review of prisoners. New inventions are not only not needed, they are immediately suspect of aiming to circumvent existing protections of law, protections that are there for very good reason.
totally off the topic.
I just saw Walter Dellinger, drop Marty's name as one of a short list of experts that the next administration's DOJ would be well advised to call in for consultation in decision processes. This was on an ACL panel today on law and justice policy in the next administration... Congrats Marty.
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