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Monday, March 31, 2008
My Advice to Judges (For What it's Worth)
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Eric Posner remains insistent. He wants to know what I would tell judges about how to decide cases consistent with my views of the living constitution. As described earlier, I think that living constitutionalism is a theory about the legitimacy of the constitutional system as a whole rather than a theory that secures legitimacy by instructing judges to decide cases this way rather than that way. But Eric is certainly right that this emphasis does not exclude the possibility of giving judges general forms of advice as participants in the legal system. It's just that I don't think this sort of advice does much good for judges who are already well socialized into the mainstream of legal culture, and these are about the only sort of people who tend to get positions as judges in the first place. But Eric will not be denied: he wants an answer, so I guess I have to give him something.
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Here's a question I've had about the general text-and-principle approach. The first rule is, "Be faithful to the original meaning of the text of the Constitution and the principles that underlie it." But what if it's not possible to do both? What if it turns out that the constitutional language isn't actually the best way to pursue the principle underlying the constitutional language? What then? Rule 3 says, "You are required to decide consistent with the text's original meaning," suggesting that the theory is really devoted to the (original meaning of the) text, and not the underlying principle, when they conflict. But then I don't see why the view is "text and principle," rather than (as I would prefer) "historic textually-expressed principle." Put another way, what happened to the principle in rule 3?
"But then I don't see why the view is "text and principle," rather than (as I would prefer) "historic textually-expressed principle.""
Because the text is what actually got ratified, not the principle you may claim to find underlying it. Which may be quite different from the principle somebody else finds underlying the text. Interpreting text is a much more objective process than finding principles the text is supposed to embody.
I discuss this point at length in my two articles.
Put simply, where the text states a determinate rule, you follow the rule because the text states a rule. Where the text states a standard or a principle you apply the standard or principle because the text announces a standard or a principle. There are also some additional principles that are implicit in the form of government created by the Constitution or emerge from the interaction of various parts of the document, like the separation of powers and democracy. I haven't tried to articulate all of the various complexities of the argument in the above short post. I recommend the two articles mentioned above if you are interested in these questions.
If what we're after is the principle stated in the text, that'll do for me. But you're right, I should read the articles more carefully.
Maybe that should read: Don't assume lawyers are the only people who know what the constitution means.
After all, it's short, it's written in reasonably plain language and everyone has (or should have) read it. The constitution was meant to be read, understood and even interpreted by ordinary citizens. Our own individual constitutional judgments should affect how we vote. They should affect how we judge the legitimacy of our government as a whole. To put it another way, I'm glad we have fancy lawyers like J.B. saying that the Bush administrations constitutional claims are bogus, but I knew they were bogus before I ever read a word he wrote.
i don't know if the two learned professors will ever find agreement and happiness together .. but the exchanges are instructive and educational for me and ..i'm sure others as well. i'm certainly enjoying reading this blog .. it's almost as much fun as reading "to my missionary critics" by mr. twain ...
Would it be too bold to suggest a "Ten Judicial Interpretive Commandments" monument outside or inside SCOTUS? It would not seem to violate separation of church and state although it might separate the men/women from the boys/girls.
I second Larry's comments in spirit, especially since many constitutional actors (members of Congress and Presidents most obviously) are not lawyers.
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Likewise, "the people" have a direct role in carrying out the Constitution in various respects, and (even now) only a minority of them are lawyers. Shag's comment btw reminds that the Supremes just took another religious display case.
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