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Friday, May 19, 2006
Michael Hayden and Article II
Marty Lederman
According to General Michael Hayden's testimony yesterday, in the days following September 11th, Hayden was of the view that FISA outlawed the sort of surveillance program that the NSA eventually implemented. UPDATE from the transcript:
Comments:
Ryan:
1. Yes, I believe that the President has the constitutional authority to violate statutes when he deems them unconstitutional. However: i. It remains a violation of a statute. (For what it's worth, this is different from what the Court does: The Court doesn't violate a statute; when it declares a statute unconstitutional, it *enjoins the Executive (or a state) from enforcing the statute* (i.e., threatens contempt sanctions for such enforcement). But yes, in both cases, another branch disagrees with Congress. And there's nothing *necessarily* wrong with that. ii. The decision not to violate, or to refuse to enforce, a statute is a solemn one, and should be invoked only rarely, and carefully. The question of when the Executive ought to do so -- rather than, say, the more common practice of enforcing the statute but then not defending it in court -- is a very difficult and sensitive one. For some of the best treatments, see the Dellinger OLC letter to Mikva circa 1994, and the colloquy a few years back in Law & Contemporary Problems between my former colleagues Dawn Johnsen and David Barron. iii. If and when the President violates a statute on constitutional grounds, he should do so openly and candidly, and provide the rationale, so that the public and the other branches can assess, critique and respond to such a serious constitutional stalemate. (Knowing that he'll have to defend his nonenforcement in public will also ensure that the President doesn't take such a momentous step until he's certain it's correct, and defensible.) Needless to say, that hasn't been the practice in this Administration. iv. My complaint about this Administration's examples is not the *fact* of statutory violation, but (i) that the proper proccedures have not been followed (see my initial posts from January 2005); (ii) it's been done in secret; and (iii) most importantly, that the Administration is *wrong on the merits* of the constitutional question. In other words, my critique has been based on substance and process, not on remedy (i.e., nonenforcement). 2. Yes, of course Congress could, by statute, require the Court to provide notification of all instances in which it relies on foreign law in its opinions -- although, since the opinions are already public, such a requirement would be fairly pointless, and thus an unnecessary slight to a coordinate branch.
Jefferson refused to enforce the Alien and Sedition Acts because he felt they violated the First Amendment, even though every court that had examined them found no violation.
Quick footnote to this: Jefferson did not "refuse to enforce" the Sedition Act. It expired on its own terms before he took office.
The Alien and Sedition Acts provided that they would cease to be effective on the date of the inauguration of the next President, March 3, 1801, but added that "expiration of the Act shall not prevent or defeat a prosecution and punishment of any offense against the law, during the time it shall be in force." 1 Stat. 596, 597 (1798). Jefferson therefore issued directions to cease prosecutions, including the pending sedition prosecution of William Duane, which had been initiated at the request of the Senate.
He also pardoned those who had been previously convicted: "I discharged every person under punishment or prosecution under the Sedition law, because I considered, and now consider, that law to be a nullity as absolute and as palpable as if Congress had ordered us to fall down and worship a golden image; and that it was as much my duty to arrest its execution in every stage, as it would have been to have rescued from the fiery furnace those who should have been cast into it for refusing to worship the image." Letter to Abigail Adams (July 22, 1804), in 11 The Writings of Thomas Jefferson 43-44 (Albert Ellery Bergh ed., 1907).
Not much attention has been paid so far to discrepancies between Hayden's previous testimony or remarks and what is now known. Is my recollection wrong about this? If not, I leave the implications to the reader.
The Milbank story on closed sessions underlined something Tom Oliphant (which his co-commentator David Brooks agreed with, also noting the lack of true oversight) said as part of his commentary of the hearings on PBS yesterday: leaks turn out to be the only (and therefore essential) way for the public to truly know what is going on. It's telling how some, including Chairmen Roberts (who refuses to release "Phase 2" of the report on use of pre-war intel after promising to do so), rail against such leaks (some clearly semi-official in nature, and not just re the Plame business).
Ackerman's editorial against confirmation is rather striking (it in part addresses this concern) btw since even many liberal leaning sorts (e.g., Joe Conanson in Salon) support the confirmation.
The May 18, 2006 public session testimony transcript from the Washington Post is in two sections, and is caveated as incomplete and in progress. This is the day after your article, so perhaps you have found this material already, as well. Some of the Feinstein material is split part in section I, part in section II.
As to the last comment, interestingly, some wished to have some sort of federal panel of review to submit legislation (even state laws) in respect to its constitutionality.
But, there are ways to deal with the alleged unconstitutional law. First off, I think by signing it into law the President in some fashion might in effect waive claims of unconstitutionality. Deciding, even when the writers of the law clearly didn't intend as such, hidden exceptions seems to be cheating. Anyway, the President can submit the law to a court. The surveillance program and torture measures, for instance, could easily have be dealt in this fashion. FISA and current litigation involving enemy combatants. Likewise, various affected people can have standing to challenge. The President can encourage this, such as the proposed law (by Prof. Lederman) that anyone potentially harmed by the survelliance program will have standing to challenge it. Test cases to settle the status of unclear laws have been around since the 1790s. Of course, if the President refuses to carry out laws deemed constitutional or to submit them to some third party for clarification, Congress actually has the power to impeach or pressure him in some other fashion. Imperfection, surely, but the system has avenues if people actually wanted to use them. This President does not. This Congress does not.
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