Balkinization |
Balkinization
Balkinization Symposiums: A Continuing List E-mail: Jack Balkin: jackbalkin at yahoo.com Bruce Ackerman bruce.ackerman at yale.edu Ian Ayres ian.ayres at yale.edu Corey Brettschneider corey_brettschneider at brown.edu Mary Dudziak mary.l.dudziak at emory.edu Joey Fishkin joey.fishkin at gmail.com Heather Gerken heather.gerken at yale.edu Abbe Gluck abbe.gluck at yale.edu Mark Graber mgraber at law.umaryland.edu Stephen Griffin sgriffin at tulane.edu Jonathan Hafetz jonathan.hafetz at shu.edu Jeremy Kessler jkessler at law.columbia.edu Andrew Koppelman akoppelman at law.northwestern.edu Marty Lederman msl46 at law.georgetown.edu Sanford Levinson slevinson at law.utexas.edu David Luban david.luban at gmail.com Gerard Magliocca gmaglioc at iupui.edu Jason Mazzone mazzonej at illinois.edu Linda McClain lmcclain at bu.edu John Mikhail mikhail at law.georgetown.edu Frank Pasquale pasquale.frank at gmail.com Nate Persily npersily at gmail.com Michael Stokes Paulsen michaelstokespaulsen at gmail.com Deborah Pearlstein dpearlst at yu.edu Rick Pildes rick.pildes at nyu.edu David Pozen dpozen at law.columbia.edu Richard Primus raprimus at umich.edu K. Sabeel Rahman sabeel.rahman at brooklaw.edu Alice Ristroph alice.ristroph at shu.edu Neil Siegel siegel at law.duke.edu David Super david.super at law.georgetown.edu Brian Tamanaha btamanaha at wulaw.wustl.edu Nelson Tebbe nelson.tebbe at brooklaw.edu Mark Tushnet mtushnet at law.harvard.edu Adam Winkler winkler at ucla.edu Compendium of posts on Hobby Lobby and related cases The Anti-Torture Memos: Balkinization Posts on Torture, Interrogation, Detention, War Powers, and OLC The Anti-Torture Memos (arranged by topic) Recent Posts The Grasping Hand: An Interview with Ilya Somin, Part Two
|
Thursday, June 11, 2015
The Grasping Hand: An Interview with Ilya Somin, Part Two
JB
This is part two of a two-part interview with Ilya Somin about his new book, The Grasping Hand: Kelo v. City of New London and the Limits of Eminent Domain (University of Chicago Press, 2015). Part One appears here.
JB: Many people will assume that there is an originalist case
against government taking property for private uses. But a really interesting
feature of your book is that you make a living constitutionalist case against Kelo
as well. That may surprise people who identify living constitutionalism with
post-New Deal judicial restraint on issues of economic and property rights.
What is the book's message for living constitutionalists?
Ilya Somin: It is indeed true that many living constitutionalists oppose
all but the most minimal judicial protection for property rights and economic
liberties. But that conclusion is not required by the logic of living
constitutionalism, itself. Quite the opposite, in fact, especially in this
case.
For example, one of the most prominent versions of living
constitutionalism is “representation-reinforcement,” the idea that judicial
review should be used to protect “discrete and insular minorities” who lack the
influence to protect themselves in the political process. Historically, most of
the victims of blight and economic development takings licensed by a broad
interpretation of public use are poor, racial minorities, and others lacking in
political power. Most of the millions of people forcibly displaced by eminent
domain since the Supreme Court endorsed
a broad definition of public use in 1954, fall into those categories.
Many of those displaced by eminent domain end up having to
leave the community entirely, and so are not even around to vote against the
politicians that took their homes, at the next election. In that respect, they
are even more disadvantaged in the political process than many of the groups we
more traditionally associate with representation-reinforcement.
In the book, I explain why Kelo and its precursors should be rejected under several other
well-known versions of living constitution theory, as well. I also give what I
think is the most thorough explanation to date of why Kelo is wrong from the standpoint of originalism, incorporating
many recent innovations in originalist constitutional theory.
JB: You also point out that several liberal groups and groups
that traditionally defend the interests of minorities opposed New London in the litigation. What were their
concerns about eminent domain?
Ilya Somin: Several leading liberal groups and activists filed amicus
briefs supporting the property owners in Kelo,
or spoke out against the decision. They included the NAACP, the Southern
Christian Leadership Conference, and Ralph Nader, among others Their opposition
was motivated by the reality that blight and economic development takings tend
to target the poor and racial minorities, often for the benefit of politically
influential business interests. As
Hilary Shelton of the NAACP put it in testimony before the Senate Judiciary
Committee, “allowing municipalities to pursue eminent domain for private
economic development [has] … a disparate impact on African Americans and other
minorities.” For example, the urban renewal takings that Jane Jacobs
fought against were often referred to as “Negro removal.” While overt racism is rarely a factor in more
recent condemnations of this type, the minority poor are still
disproportionately affected, in part because their relative lack of political
influence makes them easy targets.
JB: It struck me in reading your book that the use of eminent domain for private
development has a different political valence from many other constitutional
defenses of economic liberty. The people raising the constitutional claims were
individual homeowners, while large business interests were mostly allied with
city planners and government officials on the other side. Do you agree?
Ilya Somin: To some extent. As I stress in the book, most of the people
forcibly displaced by economic development takings are politically weak
homeowners, renters, and small businesses. While it would be an overstatement
to say that big business interests generally support such condemnations, some
of them are clearly among the beneficiaries, while the others are at least
relatively unlikely to have their land condemned. The National Federation of
Independent Business, the leading national small business group, has been
active in opposing Kelo, while big
business groups usually either ignore the issue, or even support economic
development takings – as do some “pro-business”
Republicans, such as former Mississippi
governor and Republican National Committee Chair Haley Barbour.
That said, many other constitutional property rights and
economic liberties cases also involve regulations that harm homeowners,
consumers, or small businesses for the benefit of the politically connected.
For example, the Institute for Justice, which litigated the Kelo case, also challenges restrictive
licensing laws that make it difficult for the poor to enter such professions as
interior decorating, serving as a tour guide, and even African hair-braiding –
often for the purpose of protecting politically influential incumbents against
competition.
JB: The book also features a popular constitutionalist take on Kelo. What
was the public reaction to Kelo? To what extent did people object
to the decision on constitutional grounds as well as policy grounds?
Ilya Somin: Polls showed that over 80 percent of the public oppose the Kelo decision, and this opposition cuts
across racial, ideological, partisan, and gender lines. Since many of these
polls asked about respondents’ opinions on the Supreme Court decision, and not
simply about the policy of condemning property for “economic development,” it
is likely that the opposition was on constitutional grounds, as well as policy.
Popular constitutionalists typically cite the civil rights
movement, the feminist movement, the gun rights movement, and – most recently –
the gay rights movement as examples of popular constitutionalist mobilization
that achieved broad enough support to justify reshaping constitutional doctrine
to meet their concerns. But the opposition to Kelo and economic development takings was actually even broader and
more widespread than the support achieved by any of these movements. If there
ever was a case that should be overturned based on popular constitutionalism,
it is this one.
Admittedly, many of the ordinary people opposed to Kelo probably do not rigorously
distinguish between constitutional and policy considerations, and even more
probably don’t know much about the legal issues involved. But, given the
ubiquity of political ignorance, that is also true of many adherents of every
other popular constitutional movement.
I am not a popular constitutionalist myself, and I don’t
believe that the popular opposition to Kelo
does much to prove that the ruling was wrong. But that opposition is surely
relevant from the standpoint of popular constitutionalism.
JB: Popular views about the Constitution often affect constitutional law through
judicial appointments as well as through litigation. Has either of the two
major political parties made overturning or modifying Kelo an important
agenda item in judicial appointments?
Ilya Somin: Politicians in both parties have denounced Kelo. But so far, neither has made it a
major focus of judicial confirmation battles. However, I did get called on to
testify on public use issues at the Senate confirmation hearings for Justice
Sonia Sotomayor (who had been part of a panel that made a very dubious
post-Kelo public use decision while serving as a lower court judge). In and of
itself, this wasn’t all that significant. But it was the first time in many
years (possibly ever) that a witness at a Supreme Court confirmation hearing
had been called on to testify specifically about property rights issues. That
would not have happened before Kelo.
When and if there is another Republican president, it is
very possible that property rights issues – including public use – will play a
bigger role in screening potential judicial nominees than in the past. Many
Republicans – particularly more libertarian-leaning ones – were and are angry
about the role of GOP-nominated Supreme Court justices in the Kelo
majority (most notably Justice Stevens, author of the majority opinion, and
Justice Kennedy, author of a crucial swing-vote concurrence).
JB: Do you think that the state courts construing their own constitutions have
responded in a helpful way to the Kelo decision?
Ilya Somin: For the most part, yes. The state supreme courts of Ohio, Oklahoma, and South Dakota have all
repudiated Kelo as a guide to the
interpretation of their state constitutions, ruling that “economic
development” takings are banned by their
respective state public use clauses. Several other state supreme courts have
rejected important elements of Kelo,
even if they have not decided the economic development question directly.
This generally hostile reception contrasts with the way many
state supreme courts in the 1950s and 60s quickly adopted Berman v. Parker – the 1954 case where the Supreme Court first
ruled that almost anything can qualify as a public use - as a model for their state constitutional
jurisprudence. It is a further sign that the onetime consensus in favor of an
ultrabroad interpretation of public use has broken down.
JB: Your book concludes that the post-Kelo
legislative reforms didn't go far enough. Why do you think that is so? And what
should be done in the future?
Ilya Somin: Forty-five states have enacted eminent domain reform laws in
the wake of Kelo – more state
legislation than has ever been adopted in response to any other Supreme Court
decision. There has been major progress in many of these states, such as Arizona, Florida, and Pennsylvania. But a
majority of the new laws only pretend to forbid economic development takings,
while in reality allowing them to continue under other names. Usually, they do
this by banning economic development takings, while simultaneously permitting
“blight” condemnations. And they define blight so broadly that almost any area
qualifies.
Even most of those states that enacted relatively effective
reforms still permit condemnations for private development in areas that are
genuinely blighted, in the lay sense of the term. That, too, is contrary to the
Public Use Clause of the Fifth Amendment, and tends to harm residents of poor and
minority neighborhoods. Urban blight is a genuine problem. But there are far
better solutions for it than the use of eminent domain. We don’t need to
condemn poor neighborhood in order to save them.
Many scholars have proposed limited reforms that would limit
the harm caused by blight and economic development takings without banning them
completely. I think several of these ideas (which I review in Chapter 8), have
merit. But none are likely to be as effective as a categorical ban in
curtailing eminent domain abuse and protecting our constitutional rights.
Posted 9:00 AM by JB [link]
|
Books by Balkinization Bloggers ![]() Linda C. McClain and Aziza Ahmed, The Routledge Companion to Gender and COVID-19 (Routledge, 2024) ![]() David Pozen, The Constitution of the War on Drugs (Oxford University Press, 2024) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, Memory and Authority: The Uses of History in Constitutional Interpretation (Yale University Press, 2024) ![]() Mark A. Graber, Punish Treason, Reward Loyalty: The Forgotten Goals of Constitutional Reform after the Civil War (University of Kansas Press, 2023) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, What Roe v. Wade Should Have Said: The Nation's Top Legal Experts Rewrite America's Most Controversial Decision - Revised Edition (NYU Press, 2023) ![]() Andrew Koppelman, Burning Down the House: How Libertarian Philosophy Was Corrupted by Delusion and Greed (St. Martin’s Press, 2022) ![]() Gerard N. Magliocca, Washington's Heir: The Life of Justice Bushrod Washington (Oxford University Press, 2022) ![]() Joseph Fishkin and William E. Forbath, The Anti-Oligarchy Constitution: Reconstructing the Economic Foundations of American Democracy (Harvard University Press, 2022) Mark Tushnet and Bojan Bugaric, Power to the People: Constitutionalism in the Age of Populism (Oxford University Press 2021). ![]() Mark Philip Bradley and Mary L. Dudziak, eds., Making the Forever War: Marilyn B. Young on the Culture and Politics of American Militarism Culture and Politics in the Cold War and Beyond (University of Massachusetts Press, 2021). ![]() Jack M. Balkin, What Obergefell v. Hodges Should Have Said: The Nation's Top Legal Experts Rewrite America's Same-Sex Marriage Decision (Yale University Press, 2020) ![]() Frank Pasquale, New Laws of Robotics: Defending Human Expertise in the Age of AI (Belknap Press, 2020) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, The Cycles of Constitutional Time (Oxford University Press, 2020) ![]() Mark Tushnet, Taking Back the Constitution: Activist Judges and the Next Age of American Law (Yale University Press 2020). ![]() Andrew Koppelman, Gay Rights vs. Religious Liberty?: The Unnecessary Conflict (Oxford University Press, 2020) ![]() Ezekiel J Emanuel and Abbe R. Gluck, The Trillion Dollar Revolution: How the Affordable Care Act Transformed Politics, Law, and Health Care in America (PublicAffairs, 2020) ![]() Linda C. McClain, Who's the Bigot?: Learning from Conflicts over Marriage and Civil Rights Law (Oxford University Press, 2020) ![]() Sanford Levinson and Jack M. Balkin, Democracy and Dysfunction (University of Chicago Press, 2019) ![]() Sanford Levinson, Written in Stone: Public Monuments in Changing Societies (Duke University Press 2018) ![]() Mark A. Graber, Sanford Levinson, and Mark Tushnet, eds., Constitutional Democracy in Crisis? (Oxford University Press 2018) ![]() Gerard Magliocca, The Heart of the Constitution: How the Bill of Rights became the Bill of Rights (Oxford University Press, 2018) ![]() Cynthia Levinson and Sanford Levinson, Fault Lines in the Constitution: The Framers, Their Fights, and the Flaws that Affect Us Today (Peachtree Publishers, 2017) ![]() Brian Z. Tamanaha, A Realistic Theory of Law (Cambridge University Press 2017) ![]() Sanford Levinson, Nullification and Secession in Modern Constitutional Thought (University Press of Kansas 2016) ![]() Sanford Levinson, An Argument Open to All: Reading The Federalist in the 21st Century (Yale University Press 2015) ![]() Stephen M. Griffin, Broken Trust: Dysfunctional Government and Constitutional Reform (University Press of Kansas, 2015) ![]() Frank Pasquale, The Black Box Society: The Secret Algorithms That Control Money and Information (Harvard University Press, 2015) ![]() Bruce Ackerman, We the People, Volume 3: The Civil Rights Revolution (Harvard University Press, 2014) Balkinization Symposium on We the People, Volume 3: The Civil Rights Revolution ![]() Joseph Fishkin, Bottlenecks: A New Theory of Equal Opportunity (Oxford University Press, 2014) ![]() Mark A. Graber, A New Introduction to American Constitutionalism (Oxford University Press, 2013) ![]() John Mikhail, Elements of Moral Cognition: Rawls' Linguistic Analogy and the Cognitive Science of Moral and Legal Judgment (Cambridge University Press, 2013) ![]() Gerard N. Magliocca, American Founding Son: John Bingham and the Invention of the Fourteenth Amendment (New York University Press, 2013) ![]() Stephen M. Griffin, Long Wars and the Constitution (Harvard University Press, 2013) Andrew Koppelman, The Tough Luck Constitution and the Assault on Health Care Reform (Oxford University Press, 2013) ![]() James E. Fleming and Linda C. McClain, Ordered Liberty: Rights, Responsibilities, and Virtues (Harvard University Press, 2013) Balkinization Symposium on Ordered Liberty: Rights, Responsibilities, and Virtues ![]() Andrew Koppelman, Defending American Religious Neutrality (Harvard University Press, 2013) ![]() Brian Z. Tamanaha, Failing Law Schools (University of Chicago Press, 2012) ![]() Sanford Levinson, Framed: America's 51 Constitutions and the Crisis of Governance (Oxford University Press, 2012) ![]() Linda C. McClain and Joanna L. Grossman, Gender Equality: Dimensions of Women's Equal Citizenship (Cambridge University Press, 2012) ![]() Mary Dudziak, War Time: An Idea, Its History, Its Consequences (Oxford University Press, 2012) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, Living Originalism (Harvard University Press, 2011) ![]() Jason Mazzone, Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law (Stanford University Press, 2011) ![]() Richard W. Garnett and Andrew Koppelman, First Amendment Stories, (Foundation Press 2011) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, Constitutional Redemption: Political Faith in an Unjust World (Harvard University Press, 2011) ![]() Gerard Magliocca, The Tragedy of William Jennings Bryan: Constitutional Law and the Politics of Backlash (Yale University Press, 2011) ![]() Bernard Harcourt, The Illusion of Free Markets: Punishment and the Myth of Natural Order (Harvard University Press, 2010) ![]() Bruce Ackerman, The Decline and Fall of the American Republic (Harvard University Press, 2010) Balkinization Symposium on The Decline and Fall of the American Republic ![]() Ian Ayres. Carrots and Sticks: Unlock the Power of Incentives to Get Things Done (Bantam Books, 2010) ![]() Mark Tushnet, Why the Constitution Matters (Yale University Press 2010) Ian Ayres and Barry Nalebuff: Lifecycle Investing: A New, Safe, and Audacious Way to Improve the Performance of Your Retirement Portfolio (Basic Books, 2010) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, The Laws of Change: I Ching and the Philosophy of Life (2d Edition, Sybil Creek Press 2009) ![]() Brian Z. Tamanaha, Beyond the Formalist-Realist Divide: The Role of Politics in Judging (Princeton University Press 2009) ![]() Andrew Koppelman and Tobias Barrington Wolff, A Right to Discriminate?: How the Case of Boy Scouts of America v. James Dale Warped the Law of Free Association (Yale University Press 2009) ![]() Jack M. Balkin and Reva B. Siegel, The Constitution in 2020 (Oxford University Press 2009) Heather K. Gerken, The Democracy Index: Why Our Election System Is Failing and How to Fix It (Princeton University Press 2009) ![]() Mary Dudziak, Exporting American Dreams: Thurgood Marshall's African Journey (Oxford University Press 2008) ![]() David Luban, Legal Ethics and Human Dignity (Cambridge Univ. Press 2007) ![]() Ian Ayres, Super Crunchers: Why Thinking-By-Numbers is the New Way to be Smart (Bantam 2007) ![]() Jack M. Balkin, James Grimmelmann, Eddan Katz, Nimrod Kozlovski, Shlomit Wagman and Tal Zarsky, eds., Cybercrime: Digital Cops in a Networked Environment (N.Y.U. Press 2007) ![]() Jack M. Balkin and Beth Simone Noveck, The State of Play: Law, Games, and Virtual Worlds (N.Y.U. Press 2006) ![]() Andrew Koppelman, Same Sex, Different States: When Same-Sex Marriages Cross State Lines (Yale University Press 2006) Brian Tamanaha, Law as a Means to an End (Cambridge University Press 2006) Sanford Levinson, Our Undemocratic Constitution (Oxford University Press 2006) Mark Graber, Dred Scott and the Problem of Constitutional Evil (Cambridge University Press 2006) Jack M. Balkin, ed., What Roe v. Wade Should Have Said (N.Y.U. Press 2005) Sanford Levinson, ed., Torture: A Collection (Oxford University Press 2004) Balkin.com homepage Bibliography Conlaw.net Cultural Software Writings Opeds The Information Society Project BrownvBoard.com Useful Links Syllabi and Exams |