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Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Law Schools Suffer Loss in Lawsuits
Brian Tamanaha
Of the dozen-plus misrepresentation lawsuits filed against law schools by their former students, in recent months three have been dismissed (several have survived motions to dismiss and are in discovery). The core basis for the dismissal is the same in all three: prospective students cannot reasonably rely upon employment data posted by law schools.
Comments:
Brian,
My understanding (perhaps mistaken) is that the lawsuits have not fared very well and that more than three have been dismissed. Other than the Thomas Jefferson case in California, which of the suits are in discovery? It would be helpful to know as well if there have been written decisions in these cases.
Milan,
In addition to Thomas Jefferson, the WSJ blog reports that suits against Golden Gate and USF have "cleared initial hurdles" and are proceeding, although I have not seen written decisions on either (see http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/09/12/illinois-judge-tosses-consumer-fraud-suit-against-depaul-law/
This isn't my field, but it seems bizarre to say that a fraudulent claim isn't fraud if dutiful investigation reveals its falsity. I found especially interesting Judge Quist's contempt in the sentence, "But, as put in the phrase we lawyers learn early in law school--caveat emptor."
Do you think that these judges may have been biased, either by conscious professional loyalty to law schools or by unconscious deference to institutional authority?
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So we have shady characters in comments trying to sell pigs in pokes. Why is this considered off-topic?
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Law students started losing faith in the law schools since at least 2005. I've often wondered why it took the media and professor so long to recognize that. Kudos to Prof. Tamanaha and others for continuing to focus on this issue.
http://www.legalethicsforum.com/blog/2005/03/ethics_is_law_s.html John Steele
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Off topic (i.e., no merchandise), I wonder if Jack Balkin is penning an essay on his view of "The Second Gilded Age"?
John Paul Stevens reviewed Prof. Levinson's book for the NY Review of Books.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/oct/11/should-we-have-new-constitutional-convention/?pagination=false
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Joe, thanks for the link to Justice Stevens; review of "Framed." If my eyes hold up, I may read the book.
http://www.booktv.org/Program/13775/Framed+Americas+51+Constitutions+and+the+Crisis+of+Governance.aspx
C-SPAN will re-air a book appearance by Sandy Levinson on 9/29 at 9AM EST. For those who can access it, the link also provides video.
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