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Wednesday, June 22, 2022
The Theory Debates of the 1980s: A Retrospective
Guest Blogger
This post was prepared for a roundtable on Law, Literature, and
Other Performing Arts, convened as part of LevinsonFest 2022—a
year-long series gathering scholars from diverse disciplines and viewpoints to
reflect on Sandy Levinson’s influential work in constitutional law. Stanley
Fish What
were the debates in the 1980s about? In general, they were about the nature of
interpretation, especially, though not exclusively, legal interpretation, and
they were driven by three questions: And who
were the participants? Owen Fiss, Sandy Levinson, Ronald Dworkin, Stanley Fish,
Gerry Graff, Walter Michaels, all of whom glance sideways at Judge Posner; each
with a connection to literature and the liberal arts, each a Jew of a certain
age. These
main figures were engaged in a dance-like series of encounters in which
temporary alliances and oppositions gave way to new oppositions and new
alliances. In the
background of these debates is a picture of the scene of interpretation that is
either being affirmed, or challenged, or declared completely false. Constraint
is necessary because, it was said, interpreters will always be tempted to
substitute their own meanings for the meaning the text contains. Texts in their
turn are inherently ambiguous, capable of being read in many ways, and, because
ambiguous, a possible ally of the willful interpreter. Just as an interpreter must
be prevented from going his/her own self-serving way, so must a text be
prevented from releasing all the meanings that could possibly be assigned to
it. The
question then is how exactly do you do that, and the answer Sanford Levinson
gave in 1982 is that you can’t. For years he reports, he organized his course
on constitutional interpretation around the question “Did the court get it
right,” a question that required for an answer “the development of a full set
of principles and methods of correct interpretation”. Now however he is less
and less confident that “this is a sensible enterprise”; he has become convinced
by reading Rorty, Bloom, Kuhn, and Fish that the reader not the text controls
because language is “unavoidably ambiguous”; and that in turn means that “meaning
is created rather than discovered” and as a result nothing can prevent the
interpreter from doing what Richard Rorty says he will always do; beat the text
into a shape that will best serve his own purposes. Almost
everyone took issue with Levinson, including those (like me) he cited for support.
The key point was made immediately by Graff in the same issue of the Texas Law
Review. “Meaning”, Graff insisted, “is an affair of the use of words and sentences, not words and sentences considered as
things in themselves which, somehow, bear meanings within them”. No word or
sentence, he continued “means anything determinate until it is used in a
specific speech situation by somebody.” I
offered an even stronger version of Graff’s point: There are no words or
sentences in themselves existing in some abstract space waiting to be inserted
into a particular situation; when you encounter a word or a sentence it is
always and already domesticated—shorn of the polysemy that is either its glory
or its liability; the supposed radical ambiguity of language has already been
tamed. Levinson, I said, mistake words as dictionary entries—as items bearing
any number of meanings none of which has yet been selected by an intentional
agent—for words that are actually being employed in the making of an assertion. What this
means is that one of the entities in need of constraint in the interpretive
scene as Levinson imagines it is already constrained. There is no free-standing
independent text bursting with multiple meanings that must be rendered
manageable by method; and therefore there is no need of method. Moreover by the
same reasoning there are no free-standing independent interpreters whose
wayward impulses must be curbed by method. Any interpreter, whether of a legal
or literary or historical or anthropological text is situated within one of
those disciplines, sees through its eyes and thinks through its concepts. He or
she is already tethered to and constrained by the internalized set of norms and
priorities that come along with membership in a well-developed practice. The
lawyer or literary critic or historian never enters the disciplinary space and
asks, “well, what do I do now?” Being embedded in a practice means is that you
always know what to do and that the requisite knowledge—the know-how, the
ropes—is something you carry with you—no, within you—written on the fleshly
tables of your heart to the point where your perception and thought are
naturally its extension. As you
can see, this argument, which I had begun to make in the early 70’s solves the
crisis of interpretation by denying that there is one, by declaring that the
free-standing polysemous text and the free-standing standing interpreter,
exercising a will to power, don’t exist, and therefore don’t have be brought
together by a free-standing independent method. So when Levinson says that the
problem of interpretation is incapable of resolution because its politics and
power all the way down, I say there is no problem, which doesn’t mean that the
path of interpretation is always clear and easily negotiated; but that the
difficulties are the ordinary empirical ones and not the deeply theoretical difficulties with which Levinson begins.
And of course if there is no problem, there is, as I have already said, no need
for a solution. Is at
this point that I wheel and turn in the direction of two other formidable
interlocutors, Owen Fiss and Ronald Dworkin, both of whom think there is a
problem because both assume something like the picture of interpretation
assumed by Levinson in which interpretive proliferations calls out for a
constraint. Without a constraint, Fiss declares, nothing will stop the slide
toward nihilism. Fiss’
candidate for constraint is what he calls disciplining rules—a ‘set of rules
that specifies weight and relevance”. So in Fiss’ account the interpreter who
asks herself “What do I do now?” has an answer: hold fast to and apply the
rules, some of which Fiss lists But it
would be difficult—no impossible—to imagine a judge who needed to be reminded
or remind himself of these “rules”, since the behaviors the rules enjoin are necessary
and constitutive ingredients of what being a judge entails. The judge who is
not the tablet on which those rules are inscribed has lost his hold on what it
means to be a judge, and has become something else. The disciplining that Fiss
assigns to his rules is already going on the moment a man or woman steps into
the judge’s role. The rules don’t govern the practice from the outside; they
inhabit the practice as its inside. Fiss thinks judges (and other interpreters)
are in need of constraints; I would say that they are structures of constraint
and need only to go on in their already constrained way. I gave
the same response to Ronald Dworkin’s concern that judicial interpretive
practice be informed and undergirded by the right moral/political theory. Like
Fiss, Dworkin begins with the desire that judges “not read their own
convictions into the Constitution” He see this danger as one pole to be
avoided; the other is the pole of textual literalism or as he calls it “conventionalism”,
the idea that a “right or a responsibility flows from past decrees” and “is
explicit within them”. So on the one hand there is the Scylla of “discrete
judgments” made by interpreters who feel no obligation to maintain “consistency
with the past”, and the Charybdis of adhering to a text simply because it is on
the books and with no concern for its moral content. I reject, said Dworkin,
both “finding the law just there in history” and “making it up wholesale in
accordance with what you think it should be. Dworkin
opts for “something different” from both these alternatives, and that something
he variously calls “articulate consistency”, “law as integrity”, “law as a
chain novel” and the “moral reading of the law”. Under any of these designations,
the obligation of judges is to “regard themselves as partners with other
officials, past and future, who together elaborate a coherent institutional
morality and they must take care to see that what they contribute fits with the
rest”, in the sense of continuing the story law is cumulatively telling; the
judge who does that will be doing his part in making the whole of the law “the
best it can be”. It follows, says Dworkin, that “legal reasoning “must bring to
bear…a vast network of principles” that are at once the content of law and the
force impelling it forward. “You cannot think about the correct answer to the
questions of law unless you have thought through and are ready to work through...an
over-arching theoretical system”. Being in possession of such a theory is what
guarantees that interpreter/judges will be acting responsibly rather than
acting either mechanically or willfully. Dworkin’s
account drew from me a version of the same question I addressed to Fiss. Would
it be possible for a judge not to
think of himself as embedded in a network of legal principles as embodied in
legal history; not actively think so as a willful resolve, but think so
unreflectively by virtue of the role he or she occupies? The question can be
sharpened by listening to a sentence from the classic essay, “Hard Cases”. “If
a judge accepts the settled practices of his legal system—its distinct
constitutive and regulative rules—then he must …accept some general political
theory that justifies these practices.” What could possibly be meant by the
word “accept” in this sentence? Could one reject the settled practices of the
profession and the moral vision informing them and in any meaningful sense be a
judge? Does a judge wake up in the morning and decide whether he will today
accept those practices? Of course he could decide to give it all up, throw in
the towel, but so long as he doesn’t do that, the weight and guidance of those
practices will not be something he could be without (in two senses of that
word). I’m not saying that one couldn’t or shouldn’t articulate the principles
informing legal practice, but that they are at work always in the actions of
practitioners, even the actions of practitioners who have never had a systematic
theoretical thought in their lives. The formal articulation of the theory of a
practice is not a prerequisite for engaging in it. Theory is a special—and
optional—project. Theory comes after, not before, the interpretive act. In
their responses to my arguments, Fiss and Dworkin made the same point –that
what I leave out and devalue are the moments of reflection, of stepping back
from the task at hand and taking the longer view of the enterprise. I do not
however either deny or trivialize such moments. I only insist that they are
practice specific; that is, they occur within the practice and not in a special
realm above it. If by reflection you mean thinking about what you’re doing and
speculating as to what case or category or precedent might aid your doing of
it, I am all for it. What I deny (both as a strategy and a possibility) is
reflection as a separate free-standing act with no institutional content and
with abstract ambitions. What I deny is the relevance to legal practice—or any
other—of philosophy. When Dworkin speaks approvingly of the Herculean judge who
strives to “build a gigantic over-arching theory good for all seasons”, he
articulates a vision of the judge as a companion of George Eliot’s
Causabon—someone who just likes to build systems, the bigger the better.
Building systems is fine if you like that kind of thing, but practice can do
very well without it. It is
in my insistence on the sufficiency of practice that I make common cause with
Judge Posner who consistently argues against over-arching theories, elaborate
legal formalisms, edifices of principle. He searches for a key to the
interpretive kingdom and reports that “no keys were found”. What he does find
is the practical reasoning characteristic of the common law—“a vast grab bag
that includes anecdotes, introspections, imagination, common sense, empathy,
…motives, speaker’s authority, metaphor, analogies, precedent, custom”—all the
bits and pieces out of which jurists fashion their opinions. Needless
to say, I find this congenial as an account of the way law’s business gets
done. Law is not a theoretical enterprise, even though shards of theory turn up
in it and are often met with more respect than they merit. Basically, legal
practice and legal interpretation are empirical activities in which an enormous
variety of things are put into play, including occasionally theoretical
formulations or as I call them “theory talk”—in the effort to be persuasive to
the relevant audiences. There
is nothing more general to say. Where
Posner and I part company is the question of whether anything follows from the
fact that there is nothing more general to say. He thinks or at least used to
think that something does follow, that a pragmatic/empirical description of the
law and its operations calls for an empirical, pragmatic method, one that, in
Posner’s terms, helps us in the “struggle against metaphysical entities”. But
you can’t make a method out an anti-methodical argument. It is one thing to
affirm the truth of trial and error, pragmatic experimentation and opportunism
against rival, normative accounts of the law; it is another to make that
affirmation into a new norm, into a program that promises to do things better.
That is to make the mistake of confusing pragmatism as a truth we are all
living out (whether we are theorists
or anti theorists) with pragmatism as a truth we could live by. If pragmatism as a description of
the law is correct, it cannot without contradiction be the banner we march
under. If “pragmatically” is the answer to the question “how do we go about
making decisions and fashioning interpretations?” that hit-and-miss-trial-and-error
process cannot be the basis of an imperative like “act pragmatically”. How else
could we act? The fact that everything that goes on goes on in a contingent
fashion does not lead to or even make intelligible a resolution to be
contingent. Contingency is something that befalls us as situated beings, not
something we intentionally perform. It cannot be made into a new abstract guide
especially since the unavailability of abstract guides is pragmatism’s key
assertion. “Be ye contingent” is an incoherent imperative. Indeed, knowing that
contingency is what impels the process forward doesn’t make you any better at
it; and not knowing that contingency is what impels the process forward won’t
make you any worse at it (again because contingency is something we necessarily
experience, not something we self-consciously and aggressively enact or fail to
enact); your ability to make do with the resources at hand is independent of
the truth or falsity of your epistemological account of the practice you are
engaged in; that skill could well be yours even if you remained, as Dworkin
did, a hard core theorist. This
brings me to a final point and another possible difference between me and Judge
Posner. The flip side of the mistake of thinking that metaphysical entities govern
practice is the mistake of thinking that metaphysical entities must be
eliminated from practice. But while metaphysical entities do not and could not
do the work claimed for them by formalists and theorists (the work of
generating correct, determinate outcomes), they do do the absolutely essential
work of enabling the law to perform its task, which is to stand between us and
the contingency out of which its own structures are fashioned. Those structures
are the metaphysical entities legal realists and their successors have been
urging us to discard since the early 20th century. But if we were to follow
their council and get rid of law’s normative vocabulary because it was a
rhetorical creation resting on nothing firmer than its own elaboration, the
result would not be a purified law, but no law. Those who say that that the law
is not a distinctive thing are right if by distinctive they mean a natural
kind. Law is exactly what realists, postmodernists, feminists, critical race
theorists (and others) say it is: is an artificial construct supported by
nothing more foundational than the concepts and categories it invents and sets
in motion. But that is precisely why the artifice must be maintained and constantly
shored up: sweep it all away—no more legal definitions, no more concepts that
correspond to nothing in the world, no more challengeable and malleable
distinctions, no more rules that are breached as a matter of principle—and
everything these fragile fabulations make possible will be lost. The sheer
rhetoricity of law’s machinery is the strongest argument for maintaining it in
all its fictional glory; if nothing grounds it, it cannot survive the
dismantling of its surface props. Nor
will the law be bettered by turning it over to another enterprise. Judge Posner
has been known to say that the law should be a “method of social engineering”; but
making the law into an appendage of some other project by jettisoning the
vocabulary (again, admittedly artificial and self-referring) that declares its
wholly confected distinctiveness is not the way to save it , but the way to
lose it. So, in what might seem to be a paradox but is not, what is waiting for
us at the end of the anti-formalist road—the road we travel down when we deconstruct
law’s claims of objectivity and universality—is formalism; not the a priori
formalism of a foundationalist epistemology where the foundations are always
there waiting to be discovered and clung to, but the formalism of the enabling
fictions (embodied in a conceptual apparatus) in the absence of which the word
“law” would refer to nothing at all. It is only if law rested on some
perdurable, objective foundation that the paring away of its institutional surfaces
would do no harm; the foundation would remain what it is even without the
surface features that adorn but do not constitute it. If, however, the law is
foundation-less, the removal of its surfaces would be the removal of everything. Stanley Fish is Professor of Law at Florida International
University College of Law and a Visiting Professor at the University of Texas
School of Law. You can contact him at fishs@fiu.edu.
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