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Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Charles Lane proves Akhil Amar's point
Stephen Griffin
One of the hardest points to get across to the media about the ACA is why so many legal scholars think it should have easily survived without all the sturm und drang. The fact that most scholars think the ACA is constitutional has been widely reported. The why, not so much. It's proven hard for journalists to cope with the acres of precedent supporting complex regulatory statutes like the ACA. Apart from the occasional article on grain for home consumption and medical marijuana, the reality of a substantial web of precedent has proven difficult to convey.
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The fear of "policy chaos" from a decision in validating the mandate is really quite silly. The anti-mandate arguments do not threaten any other existing federal laws. In this sense, the arguments are more modest than those embraced by the Court in Lopez and Printz, which did threaten other laws (even if only a few).
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I don't know really if the arguments don't threaten other laws since who can tell? The PPACA seemed rather clearly constitutional but now there is doubt.
The "activity" / "nonactivity" rationale, e.g., is offered. But, people like Orin Kerr argue there isn't a clear line there, citing laws. So, maybe those laws are at risk somehow if that is the test. The 11th Cir. didn't seem to think too much about the argument but found this law went too far. So, why wouldn't the ultimate ruling striking it down not open up the chance other laws might go too far? After all, opponents speak of the USSC making new law -- drawing new lines. What lines? And, some of the opponents would be glad, since they don't merely think this law is a problem. BTW, let's not forget about the Medicaid case. That opens up a whole can of tax/spending law worms.
"The fact that most scholars think the ACA is constitutional has been widely reported. The why, not so much...
Funny thing is, we think the Constitution is actually a law. As law, the Constitution could only be effective across a wide range of disputes once it was implemented by the judiciary in a system of common law precedent." In fact, the progressive legal elite do not believe the written Constitution is law. Instead, you rely upon progressive common law to evicerate and rewrite the document. If the Supreme Court does not draw the line here, the progressive project of eliminating the Constitution's limitated enumerated powers in favor of a common law general police power will be complete. In that case, we might as well tear up the document and stop the pretense that the courts do not decree our basic law.
Yes on the idea that non-lawyers do not understand the importance of a web of precedent. However, lawyers and professors seem to grossly overestimate the importance of precedent time and again. One would think it would be the constitutional scholars who would be most likely to have read and respected the ideas of legal realism, and to recognize major inflection points such as the New Deal and segregation as evidence that legal precedent is not always enough. Add to this the ridiculousness that is Flood v. Kuhn, and one would think no constitutional scholar would ever raise what amounts to precedent alone against a compelling argument for a change.
Our yodeler and his ilk who believe in the liberty to free ride healthcare rely upon "law office history" in efforts to interpret the Constitution via recreating original meanings even as circumstances have changed. It's as if originalists (and textualists) have the vapors when it relates to America's first African-American President as noted by Jack in his AP post.
Unknown's reference to " ... the ridiculousness that is Flood v. Kuhn ..." should be understood as a failed challenge by an African-American of a precedent established after Plessy v. Ferguson (despite the Civil War Amendments) even though Brown v. Board of Education had subsequently overcome Plessy before the Court addressed Flood. But what followed Flood opened the floodgates for all professional athletes of all races.
Every radio station I switch to seems to be playing "Happy Days Are Here Again ...." What's the deal, something new?
Today's lunch day with liberals (mostly) and I hope broccoli is on the menu - it's good for even libertarians.
I think the broccoli just come with some liquor since the libs (and the sane conservatives, including one at this very blog) barely won, read the Medicaid provision somewhat narrowly and accepted the imho patently weak "mandate" argument as to CC ... this all skewers federal law, including probably in some unclear way existing law and policy ... in unknown ways.
Shag will have a lot more law review articles to read at least. BTW, Roberts? Did he channel Charles Evan Hughes or what?!
I am going to start my reading with the Medicaid opinions.
Congress has blackmailed the states into assuming tens of billions in unfunded mandates by threatening existing funding for various entitlements and subsidies. If this is no longer permissible under these opinions, that could be a sea change in federalism. The immediate impact is that every GOP and many insolvent Dem state governments are likely to opt out of the Obamacare Medicaid mandates, which were supposed to expand rolls by roughly 20 million and, if Romneycare is any guide, probably far more. Are these opinions retroactive? Can states begin to peel away the layers of mandates and decide what level of participation they want under Medcaid and other programs? Very interesting.
Still no balm for chronic "Wick-burn."
Lee J. Stang has a June 25, 2012 post at libertylawsite.org titled "Why Originalism Need the Virtues" which includes references to "Wick-burn." So I am looking forward to scholarly papers "anal-eye-zing" the ACA decision(s) with the usual spin of the usual suspects. In the meantime, I've been looking at the sour grapes at VC. As for lunch today, I'm thinking of ordering a Justice Scalia martini - gin on the rocks with a sprig of broccoli - to accompany an Etna Italian Sausage Sub with Mushrooms, Peppers and Onions. Chow [sick!]
Our yodeler has already started spinning with his:
"Very interesting." But as in "Laugh-In," it's "Stupid! [H/T Arte Johnson]
Shag:
The opinions are what they are: The CC outcome was correct. I can hardly wait to read how Robertson threaded the taxation needle and why this is not an unconstitutional penalty. I did not expect the Supremes to have the guts to reverse the entire law. That is for the voters in November. However, the Medicaid opinions appear to be a rather dramatic resurrection of the Tenth Amendment. Reading will tell.
Apparently our yodeler never learned the lesson: when the Supreme Court hands you lemons with a decision, just pucker, and wait awhile before making lemonade.
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