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Saturday, January 26, 2008
Why Can't the Attorney General Simply Concede that Waterboarding is Torture?
Marty Lederman
Back during his confirmation hearings, I suggested that Michael Mukasey could and should address Senators' concerns about waterboarding by simply stating that it is unlawful torture (and cruel treatment), but that no CIA officials will be prosecuted for having followed contrary legal conclusions issued by OLC. Of course, he did not take that route; instead, he told Senators that he would review the relevant legal memoranda, and then prohibit any conduct that he concluded would be unlawful.
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C-Span has the video of your ACS panel discussion here:
rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/ter/ter012508_tapes.rm
or perhaps...
3. Mukasey, like the Intel Committees, DOJ and CIA, does not think that waterboarding is unalwful.
Typos aside, if he believes that, he must be stupid enough to believe it is not torture, since torture is unlawful.
Mukasey strikes me as many things, but 'stupid' is not among them.
Hopefully there is something far more substantial to explain his pathetic dissembling on the subject as the reasons suggested above are way too petty to justify continuing massive damage to this country international standing.
His posture is puzzling as at his confirmation hearing he came across as fully aware of the problem, going even as far as quoting old Talleyrand (... is worse than a crime, is a mistake) to describe what his predecessors at the DoJ done with this torture thing and the situation frankly isn't getting any better. He needs to read this for example to get a better sense of where our image is thanks to this administration standing on torture.
Another possibility is that Mukasey is reluctant to strengthen the case for prosecuting Bush, Yoo, Bradbury, et al. for conspiracy to commit war crimes.
Mukasey is not a foolish man. He knows it is torture, but he is unwilling accept the consequences of this.
In this, he is not unlike most Americans. It is generally believed that waterboarding is torture, and that George Bush has sanctioned waterboarding. The American people, however, remain unwilling to conclude that the President has committed an impeachable offense, much less that he deserves to be tried for warcrimes. Cognitive dissonance ensues.
Several questions:
(1) Why and how are OLC opinions sancrosanct? Why is there a good-faith expectation? Especially in light of all we now know of the politicization of the entire executive branch. (2) I've read elsewhere that OLC opinions and Presidential power are given greater weight if the country is at war. Is this true? (3) Technically speaking are we at war? No official declaration of war, as far as I know, has ever been enacted by Congress. How can Bush be a war-time President with no such declaration?
I think there are two reasons Mukasey won't admit that waterboarding or any of these other techniques are torture:
1. Uncertainty about the legal effect of such an admission on potential legal action (domestic or international) against members of the Bush administration. 2. Mukasey would probably be fired if he made such an admission.
Brendan M.:
2. Mukasey would probably be fired if he made such an admission. I doubt it. Public pressure would probably prevent such a firing under such circumstances (see, e.g. the Saturday Night Massacre and the sequelae thereof). But what would happen is that Mukasey would not be one of the Kewl Kids anymore, and people wouldn't talk to him and woudl be undercutting him (or running end-runs around him) at every opportunity. But that assumes that Mukasey actually thinks that way. His record of rather dubious due process adherence hints at an authoritarian streak that may well countenance torture as valid (and thus tolerable to some extent). Why anyone thought him to be otherwise is beyond me. Schumer??? Feinstein??? Any thoughts??? Cheers,
I don't believe there is any big mystery about why Senators Feinstein and Schumer supported Mukasey. He has a very good reputation, he was a better nominee than the likely alternatives, and that cleaning up the mess left by Alberto Gonzales was the most important consideration. I think it was a mistake, but an understandable one.
We'll see what Mukasey has to say for himself when he testifies.
Charles Gittings:
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We'll see what Mukasey has to say for himself when he testifies. Oh, you mean like this: "Steve Bradbury is one of the finest lawyers I’ve ever met...." Cheers,
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