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Thursday, March 15, 2007
Heads I Win, Tails You Lose: Secret Trials and Secret Evidence
JB
The New York Sun reports an amazing showdown now playing out in a federal court in Virginia:
Comments:
Actually, I find this compromise to allow the jurors doing the fact finding, but not the public and the enemy, to hear classified evidence to be an interesting gamble on the part of the government.
The public (not to mention our enemies) have no right to know classified information, so that part hardly bothers me. However, the government is rolling the dice that the jurors will not disclose what they know after the trial in order to ensure these two defendants a fair jury trial. It will be interesting to see if the Government is requiring some control mechanisms such as passing a background check or agreeing to sign a confidentiality agreement enforceable by criminal prosecution. If a juror refuses to agree to those conditions, is that a strike for cause or one of the government's preemptories? Interesting.
Would it not be necessary to run security checks on jurors before clearing them to hear classified evidence?
Would that not offend the concept of citizen juries? And, would that not have a chilling effect on the willingness of potential jurors to present themselves for jury duty? Further, would a judge who ruled in favor of this sort of scheme not set up a serious basis for appeal?
I'm actually a bit confused. My understanding was that the Classified Information Procedures Act was designed to address with these precise circumstances: the government wanting to introduce into a criminal trial evidence that is currently classified. There doesn't seem to be anything like what the government is proposing in that act. In fact, most of the procedures in the act appear to be fairly pointless if evidence can be introduced in a non-public way.
CIPA appears to strike this balance: if the government needs to use classified information to get a conviction, and can't find some sort of substitute that the judge accepts as substantially equivalent in terms of the defendant's constitutional right to put on a (valid) defense in a public trial, then the government must choose: either bite the bullet and release the information, or accept sanctions ranging from preclusion of evidence to dismissal of the indictment. The government never has to release evidence it doesn't want to - it just doesn't get to use that evidence against the defendant. I recall this happening in the Iran/Contra trials, to several defendants' benefit. To be clear, I'm not saying I approve or disapprove of CIPA, only that it exists.
Raphael demonstrates the conundrum the government usually faces in these cases - release classified information to the enemy or give a deal to the agent of the enemy.
This is why some of our worst spies never see trial or the execution they richly deserve. The usual techniques are to try to convince the spy to take a plea bargain to a jail sentence less than life or blackmail the spy by threatening to charge his family members with related crimes unless he accepts a life sentence. The compromise the government is offering in this case to allow the Court, the defendant and the jury to hear the classified evidence seeks to get around that conundrum while still providing a fair trial. The public can still observe all the trial proceedings. They just can't listen to this portion of the evidence. It will be interesting to see how the court resolves this.
Bart, I don't necesarily disagree (although I have serious concerns and questions) with the premise that the public does not have a right to classified information, but, regardless, I will grant you this point for the purpose of discussion.
Accepting this idea means trusting the government implicitely to do the right thing and only classify those things that could materially harm our country. However, I am not sure if, even under the best of circumstances, say in a case where every single member of the nation trust the President in every case, we should be comfortable doing so. I say this because there is an inherent benefit to for the government in overclassifying documents that need not be kept secret in order to prevent the disclosure of embarrassing or illegal activities. Thus, I don't see how we can ever trust out of hand that information that is classified should be. Indeed, there is ample historical evidence that the government has in many cases done just that (The Pentagon Papers being the most obvious and egregious example). With all of that in mind I think that the public, and the courts should operate from a position of healthy skepticism whenever the government attmepts to use "State secrets" or some other similar rationale to escape litigation or public scrutiny.
"Bart" DePalma:
This is why some of our worst spies never see trial ... Oh, bosh and piffle. This just isn't true. ... or the execution they richly deserve. Fancy that, "Bart" thinks that people ought to be executed even though they haven't been tried. "Sentence first -- verdict afterwards." Where have I heard that before? The usual techniques are to try to convince the spy to take a plea bargain to a jail sentence less than life or blackmail the spy by threatening to charge his family members with related crimes unless he accepts a life sentence. Or maybe kidnap his sons and threaten them if he doesn't 'co-operate' ... nah ... waterboarding is much faster. Cheers,
The Fabulous Galdstoner said...
Accepting this idea means trusting the government implicitely to do the right thing and only classify those things that could materially harm our country. So far as this trial goes, we do not have to trust the government to "do the right thing" because the judge, defendant and jury also get access to this information. I would be much more uneasy if the government cut out the defendant or the defendant and jury. In that case, you are attacking the basic constitutional rights to confront the evidence against you and to have a jury do the fact finding. I will leave the subject of "over classification" to a future post on that subject.
I do agree with you, Bart, that in this case, there isn't a huge problem with the lack of transparency for the general public since all of the important parties in the case are seeing all of the evidence. However, that said, if you accept that the government can acheive their aim in protecting classified evidence by restricting public access to the information than you can't hope but disagree with the dismissal of the Khalid El-Masri lawsuit. Thus, I think that any way you slice it the government is unethically using one set of criteria for access to classified information when it suits their purpose to reveal it and one set when the information might be embarrassing or might opent them up to litigation.
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