Balkinization: Asking Different Questions in a “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” Army

Asking Different Questions in a “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” Army

Ian Ayres

Ian Ayres and Jennifer Brown

Imagine that every soldier upon entering the military was asked a simple question.

Would you prefer to serve in a command without any gay personnel?

Soldiers would know that if they answer “No” they would be assigned to an “inclusive” command, and that if they answer “Yes” they would be assigned to an “exclusive” command.

Asking this question does not violate “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” because it does not ask a soldier about his or her own sexual orientation. But it nonetheless is likely to promote a kind of voluntary integration in the inclusive command. In an essay just published in the Michigan law review, we argue that:

The benefits of the inclusive units would be threefold: amelioration (of current
discrimination), demonstration (that DADT is not necessary to preserve unit
cohesion), and realignment of political allies and enemies (creating a common
cause for pro-gay legislators on the left and pro-defense legislators on the
right). The proposal is dynamic, not static. The hope is that inclusive commands
would so effectively demonstrate the benefits of integration that, over time,
increasing numbers of service members would opt for integrated units. From
there, the step to universal, mandatory integration of sexual minorities into
the armed forces would be smaller and more easily taken.

The inclusive command idea is a particular example of two themes that we explore in a variety of contexts in our forthcoming book, Straightforward: How to Mobilize Heterosexual Support for Gay Rights:
First, there are often valuable incremental strategies between seeming intractable dichotomies. And second, heterosexual allies often play a crucial role in effectuating these strategies.

Posted 10:23 PM by Ian Ayres [link]

Comments:

Huh, so you'd have gay units and a straight units? As long as the gay units were kept busy, maybe it would work...

# posted by

John Howard : 3:21 PM

both of the prior comments miss the point entirely. the post is not looking for "gay units", "straight units", or "homophobe units". the point is to give fresh recruits the opportunity to say whether or not they wish to serve in a unit that might have a gay person already serving in it. it would seem to me that those who say they don't mind will be entering a unit that is more cohesive because there is more of a likelihood that each member of the unit respects the others, regardless of their orientation; therefore, the unit is more likely to have higher morale, and by extension, greater cohesiveness.

by the same token, those who say they do not want to serve in a unit with gay soldiers and officers also get what they want. they don't have to have their sensibilities offended. they get the confidence, to whatever extent that might occur, that they are not serving alongside a gay person. they therefore also end up respecting their peers around them for what they are, stand up for their peers, and therefore develop the morale, cohesiveness and effectiveness as a unit.

in the long run, even if you view the "all straight" units as latently or blatantly bigotted, or the "all gay" units as morally reprehensible, isn't the ultimate point of the military unit to have high morale, cohesiveness and effectiveness as a unit?

# posted by

phg : 1:04 PM

You just know the "gay units" would be stigmatized in some way, and probably underestimated as members of a fighting force, Alexander the Great etc. irregardless. I'm kind of picturing the Monty Python "Trial of Sapper Walters."

# posted by

Martha Bridegam : 4:12 AM

Geraty,

Yes, there are homosexuals in the military proudly protecting your pathetic, bigoted behind -- there are and always have been. Why do you find that so unbelievable?

If you really think that all gay men are weak and limp-wristed I dare you to go into a gay bar or gay gym and yell "faggot."

Go ahead, I dare you.

# posted by

zoe kentucky : 4:13 PM

At first, I thought Scott's second post made a surprisingly strong argument when he said, "Soldiers who have intimate relationships with other soliders, including all the petty jealousies, love triangles, and power stuggles between superior/suboridnate lovers, can come to play. None of these are addressed by this idea."

Thinking more about this though, it only makes sense if under the current system gay soldiers are never able to identify each other and form relationships. If they can, all of these issues would already be having an affect. In fact, considering that homosexual soldiers have always been in the military, if these were real problems they would have been problems throughout history.

However, Scott's point about exclusive units having to work with inclusive units in larger exercises is a real objection.

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