Balkinization
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit (per Judge Luttig, joined by two Clinton appointees, Judges Michael and Traxler) today upheld the detention of Jose Padilla as having been authorized by Congress's September 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF). (Thanks to Howard Bashman for the link.) A full account from Lyle Denniston can be found here.
To the extent actual legislative intent matters, I find it very difficult to believe that Congress actually "intended," through the AUMF, to authorize the indefinite detention of American citizens captured in the U.S. under circumstances such as those in the Padilla case: Would Congress truly have intended to supersede the ordinary civil justice system for U.S. citizens who are detained here at O'Hare Airport and suspected of conspiring to violate U.S. criminal laws, so as to authorize their indefinite detention -- that is, detention until the war against Al Qaeda ends -- without trial? I must concede, however, that it's very difficult to figure out how to challenge Judge Luttig's logic about why such a conclusion follows from the plurality decision in Hamdi (and from Quirin, to the extent one thinks that case should have any precedential value), once one accepts the following alleged "fact," on which Luttig places great emphasis:
The Government's explanation of why Padilla was detained -- and why he was an "enemy combatant" covered by the AUMF -- has been a constantly moving target. At first, Padilla was detained as a "material witness." Then, if I recall correctly, the Administration alleged that he was coming to the U.S. to study possible Al Qaeda targets -- in the President's own words, "Padilla engaged in conduct that constituted hostile and war-like acts, including conduct in preparation for acts of international terrorism." At one point, the Attorney General indicated that Padilla was detained as the alleged "dirty bomber" who was preparing to strike a U.S. city with a radiological dispersal device of some kind. Subsequently, the unclassified "Mobbs declaration" essentially reiterated this justification. Two years later, this justification morphed considerably during a press conference by Deputy AG James Comey, in which he said that Padilla's intended mission was the destruction of U.S. apartment buildings with natural gas. (If this chronolgy is wrong or incomplete, please let me know.)
Most recently, however, the Administration alleges (according to Judge Luttig) that Padilla fought on the actual battlefield in Afghanistan and that his detention at O'Hare therefore is an appropriate means of keeping him from returning to Afghanistan to fight. This strikes me as extremely counterfactual, but it looks as though that's the story the Administration is now pressing. And it's certainly the predicate on which today's decision is based. [UPDATE: The military's explanation is not quite as Judge Luttig describes it, as I discuss further in my next post.] Once one accepts that predicate -- and of course Padilla presumably will have some opportunity to challenge it -- as the court does for purposes of today's decision, then it becomes difficult to explain why Padilla ought to be treated differently from Hamdi. (If you think otherwise, please feel free to explain why in the Comments section.)
Even so, the panel had one more serious obstacle -- it had to distinguish away the Supreme Court's Nineteenth Century opinion in Ex parte Milligan. Here's what Judge Luttig writes:
Finally, Padilla argues that, even if his detention is authorized by the AUMF, it is unlawful under Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866). In Milligan, the Supreme Court held that a United States citizen associated with an anti-Union secret society but unaffiliated with the Confederate army could not be tried by a military tribunal while access to civilian courts was open and unobstructed. Id. at 6-7, 121. Milligan purported to restrict the power of Congress as well as the power of the President. Id. at 121-22 ("[N]o usage of war could sanction a military trial . . . for any offence whatever of a citizen in civil life, in nowise connected with the military service. Congress could grant no such power . . ."). Quirin, however, confirmed that Milligan does not extend to enemy combatants. As the Court in Quirin explained, the Milligan Court's reasoning had "particular reference to the facts before it," namely, that Milligan was not "a part of or associated with the armed forces of the enemy." See 317 U.S. at 45. The Hamdi plurality in turn reaffirmed this limitation on the reach of Milligan, emphasizing that Quirin, a unanimous opinion, "both postdates and clarifies Milligan." 124 S. Ct. at 2643. Thus confined, Milligan is inapposite here because Padilla, unlike Milligan, associated with, and has taken up arms against the forces of the United States on behalf of, an enemy of the United States.
So, here's the critical distinction: Both Padilla and Milligan allegedly took up arms against the U.S. But whereas Padilla -- not a member of Al Qaeda -- is alleged to have been "associated with" Al Qaeda, Milligan was "unaffiliated with the Confederate army," but was instead "merely" "associated with an anti-Union secret society."
It is, of course, preposterous to think that the Milligan decision actually turned on the fact that Milligan's affliations were with a secret society, sympathetic to the Confederacy, devoted to defeating the Union, rather than with the Confederate army itself. But, per Quirin, as construed in Hamdi, as construed in today's Padilla decision, that's apparently all that is left of the once-landmark Milligan ruling. [ADDENDUM: Eric Muller explains how Judge Luttig also fails to adequately distinguish the Court's decision in Ex Parte Endo.] Posted
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by Marty Lederman [link]
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In Milligan, the court rejected any interpretation of law that would grant authority to military courts over "citizens in states which have upheld the authority of the government, and where the courts are open and their process unobstructed. This court has judicial knowledge that in Indiana the Federal authority was always unopposed, and its courts always open to hear criminal accusations and redress grievances; and no usage of war could sanction a military trial there for any offence whatever of a citizen in civil life, in nowise connected with the military service. Congress could grant no such power"
However, Padilla did not stay in the US, but rather went to Afghanistan and, depending on an interpretation of the document, either "enlisted in" or "affiliated with" Al Qaeda. Either way he went through basic training, was issued an AK 47, and acted as an infantry soldier before and during the US campaign in Afghanistan.
One of the problems in this and the Guantanamo cases is that international law and the Geneva Conventions are based on Western European conventions over many centuries that became a model for much of the world. However, Al Qaeda models itself on the Arab armies of 1500 years ago. They didn't wear uniforms and have modern ranks. More importantly, since Jihad is regarded as a duty of all believers, the transition from civilian to soldier is more informal than it is in Western armies. Just because the US only claims that Padilla is "associated with" Al Qaeda does not mean that if the evidence were put to a test, that a court would not rule that he was a full fledged enlisted soldier. However, in this set of briefs the US did not feel it needed to win that point, and the 4th Circuit did not rule that the distinction was important.
Civil law? Wow, Paul. Do you propose that we should have just filed civil complaints for damages and served subpoenas on al Queda for the time and place of the depositions? Hold them in contempt if they don't show up? Fine them? A TRO to stop killing our citizens?
Even if you mean criminal law, you must then think that rather than military intervention in Afghanistan we should have simply issued arrest warrants (assuming we could establish probable cause for each individual we wish to charge) ONLY for actual conspirators in the bombings of the WTC in 93, our embassies, the USS Cole, and 9/11, right?
We should then have them appointed counsel and have trials, right?
Please explain to curious minds how you think this ought to work.
On May 8, 2002 Padilla was captured. On June 9 President Bush signed a statement designating him an "enemy combatant" but otherwise leaving the impression that we really knew nothing about him. On June 10, John Ashcroft in Moscow held a press conference identify Padilla as a "dirty bomber". On Sept. 11, 2002 Pakistani intelligence raided a house where the commanders of 9/11 were celebrating the first anniversary of their attack. Ramzi Binalshibh was captured and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed just barely escaped. KSM was captured March 1, 2003.
We know that Padilla got his last assignment from KSM and that he was travelling to Chicago on a ticket purchased from $15,000 of Al Qaeda operating funds given to him directly by Ramzi Binalshibh. We don't know how much the information he provided helped the US to capture these two and the other members of their cell.
For the first year, until all these people had been rounded up, the US fought a delaying action in court to prevent anyone from gaining access to Padilla. During this period, it maintained the story that Padilla was a "dirty bomber". Only after that stream of intelligent played itself out did the US change its court filings to provide details about Padilla's actual mission (to blow up apartment buildings with natural gas).
There is no way to prove it, but the most reasonable conclusion that can be drawn is that Ashcroft somehow pulled off something that by common agreement we believed that no modern administration could try and get away with. He held a press conference and lied. In Intelligence work, this is called "disinformation" and is a common technique to mislead the enemy. But it is commonly believed that the press will tear the throat out of any administration that tries it. Well, they did it so well here that most of the headlines today still refer to Padilla as the "dirty bomber".
They didn't make the dirty bomb up entirely. Some belive that Padilla originally proposed this idea to Mohammed Atef, while others think that Abu Zubaida made it up as his own disinformation to mislead his American captors. Either way, by the time of Ashcroft's June 10 statement there is strong reason to belive that Padilla had given US interrogators a complete and accurate picture of his real mission, but that it was withheld so that the Pakistan cell would think he was resisting interrogation.
mjh: I meant "civil law" as opposed to "military law." The civil legal system.
As for the Afghanistan question, you're conflating two classes of people: foreign nation-states which harbor dedicated criminals, and the dedicated criminals on U.S. territory themselves. Jose Padilla is one person, for whom an arrest warrant pursuant to probable cause would have perfectly sufficed if he indeed was engaged in a criminal conspiracy to undertake illegal and murderous acts on U.S. soil.
On the other hand, the Taliban, a foreign power, was rightly overthrown because it refused to turn over Al Qaeda members who did in fact conspire to attack the U.S.
We war against states. We prosecute criminal individuals.
In terms of who those members are, well, yes, we should only punish people who we have reason to believe actually conspired to do past or future attacks on the U.S. That's called the "rule of law." Al Qaeda membership is certainly very probative evidence that a person actually agreed to some conspiracy, as is participation in training camps and the like, but we surely don't mean to punish people without this basic notion that they did some illegal act?
So despite the fact that al Queda declared war on the United States, whenever we suspect one of their minions is here attempting or conspiring to carry out that war: it is a matter for the police, subject to the rules of criminal procedure, due process and normal rules of evidence and search and seizure?
To me, that viewpoint is exactly why liberals cannot be trusted to protect and defend this nation. You have learned nothing from Sept. 11th in that you want to go back to the same rules that allowed the 19 hijackers to slip through the cracks.
At least you are honest enough to put forward such a view; good luck gaining popular support for it.
mjh21, kindly note that one of the "liberals" you berate is Antonin Scalia, by the indication of his dissent in Hamdi.
Some people believe that the U.S. is just a big shopping mall, and has nothing to do with principles of liberty and justice. Scalia isn't one of those, & neither am I.
I wonder if the panel's reliance on the Hamdi plurality's narrowing of Milligan isn't misplaced as a practical matter, if not as a matter of legal analysis. Two of the members of the Hamdi plurality are (or shortly will be) no longer on the Court, including its author. I doubt that Justices Souter and Ginsburg agree with that reading, and Justices Scalia and Stevens certainly do not.
In short, a glib reference to the Hamdi plurality's recasting of Milligan doesn't seem to me to be a sound basis for stretching the achingly general terms of the AUMF to encompass the authorization of domestic military detentions of U.S. citizens. And all of this from that rabid textualist Mike Luttig!
The "he could return to the battlefield" justification is probably the weakest of the lot considering that Padilla was placed in military detention at a time when he was subject to the jurisdiction of a court and in jail. On the undisputed facts, that was not in the cards for Padilla.
Also, one of the really important facts in Quirin was that Congress had established a set of military tribunals. Here, in contrast, Congress had no such law (except to the extent that the Court Martial provisions of the Uniform Code of Military Justice applied), the Non-Detention Act was in place, the Writ of Habeas Corpus has not been suspended (and the Government is not arguing expressly that it has been) and the Patriot Act had recently been passed in which Congress set forth the conditions that it thought justified detaining suspected terrorists in light of 9-11 and roughly contemporaneously with the authorization of military force.
Every other court that has examined the case on the merits has concluded that Quirin is not controlling in this case.
Equally important, 4 Justices of the Supreme Court in the Padilla case itself held that he was entitled to release on the basis of the non-detention act, Scalia's opinion in Hamdi makes it clear that in his opinion Padilla is entitled to a criminal trial rather than a military detention, and the plurality opinion took great care to distinguish a battlefield detention from what happened in this case. Doesn't anyone recall the "blank check" language in the plurality decision in Hamdi? Battlefield detentions are not special because they involve people with a great propensity than non-battlefield terrorists to offend again, they are special because the mechanics of providing traditional due process are unworkable there. Also, because the plurality decision in Hamdi was a mere plurality, stare decisis does not compel Scalia to go along with it in Padilla's case.
In essence, what the 4th Circuit has done in this case, rather than being compelled by Quirin, is an adoption of the Thomas opinion in the Hamdi case, which was not joined by any other justice on the Supreme Court. The last time something like that happened, when the 5th Circuit basically defied the U.S. Supreme Court in a death penalty case and adopted the reasoning of a minority view of the court, the 5th Circuit was slapped down summarily by the U.S. Supreme Court.
MJH: tempted as I am to just ignore your ridiculous "you liberals generalization," I'm going to address the "substance" of your remark, such as it is.
What difference does a "declaration of war" by Al Qaeda have on anything? There have been many, many organizations through the short but eventful history of this country that have had either the purpose or the effect of seriously destabilizing U.S. society.
Among the many that come to mind:
- The Weather Underground, a domestic "terrorist" organization dedicated to domestic revolution, which actually issued a "declaration of war" against the U.S. government (the last fact is according to wikipedia -- I wasn't aware of the declaration before).
- The Mafia, and specifically the Capone organization in prohibition-era Chicago and the New York families at the height of their power.
- The "Michigan Militia" and other militia/survivalist groups.
- Some say the underground elements of the communist party fit that category around 1950.
There are numerous additional examples. The one thing that all these examples have in common, however, is that any crimes they committed were handled through the ordinary legal processes established for control of antisocial behavior. Each of those organizations has been put down or controlled and reduced to a dull roar without burying anyone, U.S. citizen or otherwise, in a Navy brig in North Carolina.
Several people have suggested that Padilla was subject to the jurisdiction of the civilan courts and could be charged with a crime. The problem with this argument is that you must first show that he is not, as the government claims, a POW. Under the Geneval Convention Article 84
"A prisoner of war shall be tried only by a military court, unless the existing laws of the Detaining Power expressly permit the civil courts to try a member of the armed forces of the Detaining Power in respect of the particular offence alleged to have been committed by the prisoner of war."
If Padilla is an "enemy combatant" and falls under the jurisdication of the Geneva convention, then he is not subject to civilian trial. In this case, the option is to hold him as a POW or else let him go. Criminal charges are not possible.
Neither the government nor its critics have taken consistent positions across the entire set of "enemy combatant" cases. Some courts have claimed that Geneva applies to some prisoners in Guantanamo, and that could carry over to Padilla.
The real problem is that many things that are crimes to a civilian are not crimes when done by a soldier. Soldiers shoot guns, kill people, and blow things up. This is combat. Under international law, if Padilla is an enemy combatant then anything he did or intended to do is combat and may not be judged as if he were a civilian. Rather, as a soldier he has an immunity to prosecution for civilian crime. He may only be charged with a military offense and then only tried in a military court.
Howard, as I recall, he was picked up at O'Hare by FBI agents! How are you a POW if you are captured in a civilian capacity, wandering around the country in which you are a citizen, in territory not under any conflict?
(Also, Al Qaeda is not a nation-state, let alone a contracting party within Geneva terms... but that's a whole 'nother debate)
I'm way out of my legal depth here, I'm sure, but doesn't this mean that it behooves would-be terrorists to avoid appearance of association with certain terrorist groups? In other words, according to the logic here, the so-called "lone wolf" can be handled under normal criminal law, while the operator who is a member of a terrorist group (identified as such...how?) can be stowed away indefinitely without charge or access to laywers. I'm not sure we should be encouraging would-be terrorists to use *really good* crypto and fieldcraft so that they can avoid the gulag.
Milligan is dead based on this reading of Quirin and Hamdi. I was taught Milligan was a bulwark of our liberty.
One nit to a previous commentor. Congress did not authorize military tribunals for the defendants or WWII, rather, the act that authorized court-martials (prior to UCMJ) did not preclude the creation of tribunals.
An "enemy combatant" is another word for POW. However, combatants may be lawful (in uniform, carrying and ID card, and giving name rank and serial number) or unlawful (civilians or soldiers pretending to be civilians, or soldiers continuing combat after their government makes peace). Unlawful combatants are not protected by the Geneva Convention but the US may still by law be constrained by domestic and international common law to treat them in certain ways. The administration seems to think that "POW" is equated in most people's mind with "lawful combatant" and so tends to use another term to include both lawful and unlawful combatants.
There are many problems in the government's various arguments, and we just danced around one. Another document that Bush signed declared that all Al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners are "unlawful combatants". Various Federal District Court judges have ruled that both may be lawful (Robertson), the Taliban may be lawful but never Al Qaeda (Green), and neither are lawful (Leon). The interesting question relative to Padilla is the basis for making the claim. If Bush is stating a fact, that no Al Qaeda soldier captured was wearing a uniform or carrying an ID card as required by Geneva, then it is possible at some time in the future that we will get a lawful terrorist combatant. In fact, if Padilla had snuck into the US, rented the apartments, filled them with gas, blown them up, and killed a thousand people he would have been a lawful combatant provided that he did all this while wearing a uniform and carrying an ID card. At that point he could not be tried for a crime and would have to be released at the end of the war.
However, if you are saying that Al Qaeda is not capable of generating a lawful combatant even if he wears a uniform, then you are saying that it is a civilain terrorist organization. Then the 4th Circuit was wrong in this decision because a civilian cannot be an "enemy combatant" unless he is actually engaged in combat at the time he is captured.
As to the question about how Padilla can be an enemy combatant if he was picked up at the airport, the previous comment is precisely on point. If Padilla is a civilian, then he has to be in combat and he wasn't when he got off the plane. However, if he is a soldier then he remains a soldier even when travelling from place to place on a ticket purchased with Al Qaeda funds.
Herbert Haupt (defendent in the 1942 Quirin case) is a prime example here. He was sent to the US in a U-Boat to blow up some factories in the supply chain of the Norden Bomb Sight. Like Padilla, he was a US citizen, who grew up in Chicago, who was arrested in a civilian setting, in Chicago in a period of war but where no fighting was going on. As the Supreme Court pointed out, he was still a German soldier. When he buried his uniform on the Florida beach and changed into civilian clothes, he didn't become a civilian. He became a spy, and the Supreme Court said he should be executed for it.
Jose Padilla became a spy when he stepped off the plane at O'Hare. Or at least, he became a spy if Al Qaeda is an enemy power which whom we are at war and not a civilian criminal organization, and if Padilla is a soldier in Al Qaeda sent here on a special operation and not a sympathizer who agreed to commit an act of terrorism.
Put another way, in 1943 the US could have taken General Irwin Rommel as a POW even if they recognized him while he was attending the opening night at the Metropolitan Opera.
It would be more intellectually honest for Mr. Lederman to admit that Milligan didn't really survive Quirin. (It certainly violates normal jurisprudential principles to pretend that Milligan is a higher authority.) However, it is hard for people with Mr. Lederman's background to admit that FDR wasn't an ACLU member and a 60s liberal, which leads them into intellectual contortions.
Howard: I think you're oversimplifying the case, but you're generally right. To my mind, there are two conditions for being a "combatant," in the war-waging sense, either one of which could at least arguably be sufficient to subject someone to military jurisdiction. (I don't claim that either actually is sufficient, but at a bare minimum, one would need one or the other...)
1. Adherence to the army of a foreign power. This makes sense as a basis for military jurisdiction because it implicates a principled difference between military interests andlaw enforcement interests: the distinction between normal people and enemy sovereign. This principle is exemplified by Quirin, as well as Milligan, and is not satisfied here: Padilla adheres only to Al Qaeda, which is not a foreign power.
2. Being captured by the military on a battlefield. This also is connected to a conceptual distinction between military/foreign affairs versus law enforcement interests: the jurisdiction of civilian law enforcement is territorial. This principle is represented by the decision in Hamdi. It is also not satisfied here: Padilla was picked up under civilian jurisdiction.
I believe that this may be a case we will be apologizing for 50 years from now, as we did with the Japanese-American internment cases. I have a three-year old daughter. Do I want her to apologize for what my generation did to help her reach age 53, at age 53? You bet. I'm sorry, but the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Tell me that Mr. Padilla is not America's enemy and I am on your side. Tell me anything else but that and I am not.
What is Al Qaeda? There are armies that represent government we recognize (Germany during WWII). There are armies representing governments we don't recognize (Red China during Korea). Technially, during Korea we recognized the Nationalists on Taiwan as the legitimate government of all of China, which meant that the half million "volunteer" soldiers we were fighting were either civilians or some sort of irregulars. We still treated them as POWs and did not make a big deal during the cease fire.
The Taliban was the de facto government of Afghanistan, but we did not recognize it. Al Qaeda was set up during the battle with the Russian invaders as a group of foreign fighters. Now you can argue this lots of different ways, and I don't much care to fight over it, but there is a plausible claim that Al Qaeda which was born out of the Afghanistan conflict ended up as a unit associated to the government of Afghanistan much as the Foreign Legion has, through history, been associated to France. The point is that Al Qaeda can be regarded as an enemy army if you want to do that, or not if that is your preference. Congress has spoken in its resolution authorizing military action, and the Administration has spoken in its various filings and documents, but neither has been particularly clear in this matter.
I suspect this is an Article 2 decision, but am not sure if it is Commander and Chief or Foreign Policy. However, an overall view of all the cases suggests that the administration wants to have it both ways and has argued both sides in different cases.
I don't want to target nk's comment in particular, but I think it represents a really appalling kind of cowardice that is at the root of the "necessity" arguments about the "war on terror" and all the trotting out of that tired old "suicide pact" sophistry. Al Qaeda is not a threat to the U.S. on anything even approaching the scale of any prior precedent! We interned the Japanese and subjected Quirin etc to military scruting in world war II, facing a formidable alliance of military powers who, collectively, had crushed almost all of continental Europe, China, and North Africa, and controlled more territory that the Roman empire. The axis was a real threat to the very existence of the United States and the entire free world.
Even when Milligan was decided, the Union was facing a threat to its existence: it had already been split down the middle, and the war did not start off well,
Compared to this, Al Qaeda are revealed for what they are: a bunch of pitiful insects. Britain dealt with equally serious terrorists for a much longer period in the form of the IRA without turning into a bunch of sheriking cowards talking about how the magna carta isn't a suicide pact or something and flinging their liberal traditions on the fire in a panic. Why can we not do the same?
9/11 was horrible, yes. But put it in context, for christ's sake. As mass deaths go, it was nothing. If that is the best the terrorists can do, we should be destroying them with derision, not panic. And we should not be comparing those weak insects with the axis, which came very close to actually conquering the world! The constitutional sacrifices that might have been necessary to defeat the greatest threat to human civilization in history may not be necessary to defeat the likes of Osama bin Laden.
That's my rant for the day. As for Howard's point, sure, if you conceptualize Al Qaeda as a state, military custody would be permissible, but, as you correctly note, that would be much worse for us, since we couldn't punish them in the criminal system.
Quirin didn't have to be the end of Milligan and it seems strange to me that for over 58 years noone thought that it had driven a stake through the heart of the Great Writ. Quirin was an exception where the Court extraordinarily met in the summer and then took time to write the decision (because they were unsure how they were going to justify the result which had been dictated by political expediency). All of a sudden in 2001, Quirin becomes central to the government's case for tribunals, but nothing says judges have to buy the government's reading.
1. There are differences between the AUMF and the Declaration of War in 1941.
2. Quirin referred to the lawfulness of the tribunal and not the detention. The authority for the detention is inferred by Luttig from a footnote in Quirin.
3. It ought to trouble the 4th Circuit (and I think it troubled the Supreme Court) that there is no definitive set of events that will signal the end of this war.
How much principle is worth one life? Three thousand fathers, mothers, sisters, husbands, brothers, wives were lost on 9/11. Mr. Padilla is not a scapegoat. Can you tell me he's innocent? Law that is not sword and shield, for the society which has enacted it, is insanity.
That's easy to say, and it's compelling, but down that road fall a lot of principles for a little risk to life. If you want to toss platitudes back and forth, Ben Franklin's saw about liberty and security is as good as any on the other side.
I don't think OJ is innocent either, but it's not really my call, is it? If protecting "one life" is our guide, a lot more than Padilla will be sacrificed.
Anyway, question. The opinion noted Padilla stipulated to a lot of scary "facts" for the purpose of the ruling. The facts are not present in the district opinion, which has vanilla stuff about how he was captured that are not very damning at all.
Sean: maybe I need to reread milligan, but as I recall, the facts upon which the Court was deciding assuredly arose during the war: that's when millgan joined his "secret society" and that's when he was kept out of the civil system (at least to start), non?
I'm sorry, but the Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Does anyone ever make a good argument with this quotation?
Hobgoblins aside, how does "Padilla in the custody of the courts" jeopardize our children in a way that "Padilla held by executive fiat" does not?
It's the fact that our kids could be detained indefinitely at the whim of the executive that scares me. As the British peer said, al- Qaeda can't destroy our constitutions. Only we can do that.
Joe, I too was struck by the differences in the alleged "stipulations" (see Lederman's next post). Obviously, the 4th decided to ratchet up the rhetoric in order to excuse the outcome.
Paul, "Even when Milligan was decided, the Union was facing a threat to its existence: it had already been split down the middle, and the war did not start off well" sounds like the Supreme Court ruling was handed down during the Civil War, not the original trial of Milligan. I can see why someone might be confused.
nk: jose padilla is innocent until proven guilty. this whole hubbub is about what kind of trial he gets. so yes, he is innocent.
anderson: nope, no one ever does. its kind of like the "protect the children" argument - its an immediate bullshit cue. the one thing we must all remember is to retain useful ways to break with law, because nothing is more certain that the forms of law remain when all justice is gone. here, we see the shape and form of law, but no substance.
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Google started out selling this space for $2.00 per thousand impressions ("CPM"). Then they dropped it to $1.00.
On Monday they just dropped it again, to 25 cents.
(Now we're talking!)
This now puts those clicks in the ~5 cent neighborhood, and in some cases less. It's a fun thing to play with. But before you do, though, make sure you:
-Set a low daily budget so you don't make a big mistake
-Delete sites with horrible Click Thru Rates - Hey, if you're not getting any clicks, you shouldn't be paying them for the impressions.
Want to increase the clicks on your adsense ads? Of course you do. This means more money in your pocket. For FREE Information. That will for sure make you more money by the end of the week.
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